Hannahande
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The risk of covid-19 is still very real, and we all need to continue practicing safe interactions when leaving the house. What is the one thing that you should not forget to bring when going out and why?
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What is the one thing you should not forget to bring when going out?
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Based on all the brouhaha the left is espousing re: this bug, my suggestion to your question would be "COMMON SENSE"!!!
'Course I usually take a mask simply because some businesses require a mask to shop. If I don't want to wear a mask, I'll take my business elsewhere or forego that service/product!!
'Course I usually take a mask simply because some businesses require a mask to shop. If I don't want to wear a mask, I'll take my business elsewhere or forego that service/product!!
Reformed1689
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Do not forget that what the media and the left tell you about Covid are not based on science but scare tactics.
9mm
Dave G
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This isn't meant to be demeaning, but to put what I see in your quote above into its proper perspective, from my point of view.
"The risk of CoVid is still very real".
I agree...
But so is influenza, the common cold, strep throat, tetanus, cancer, HIV, HPV, and a host of others that are here to stay, no matter what we try to do as a race.
Friends,
I rarely post about subjects like this because of the very real probability of it leading to arguments...
But I'll give my impressions of this whole "CoVid" thing if you will permit:
1) Compared to other pestilences that mankind has experienced in the past 6,000 years or so, this whole "CoVid" thing ( technically this is number 8 in the "Coronavirus" family of viruses ) is nothing more than a strong gust of wind, in my opinion.
For example, the "hurricane" of the "Black Death" ( which is bacterial, not viral ) was far, far worse,
as well as the "Spanish Flu" ( H1N1 ) outbreak of 1918 that claimed the lives of an estimated 50 million people worldwide ( and devastated entire towns and cities across many countries ) before it ran its course.
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Dave G
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2) The surgical masks that health experts are recommending that everyone wear, are but stop-gap measures until they come up with a vaccine or something more reliable in order to "control" how many are getting sick from it. They absolutely will not stop anything other than what is expelled from coughs and sneezes.
If you all want a fool-proof measure of keeping out the virus,
then you'll need the equivalent of HazMat / Bio suits with self-contained breathing apparatus to even come close.
But as I see it, in order to help avoid wide-spread panic, they have to tell the population at large something.
To me, health experts think that they can control these things, but by no means will those in the medical field ever completely defeat at least most of them.
Examples of this very obvious proof include the fact that influenza strains that came on the scene within the past 500 years are still among us and are still killing people every year...
And we, as a society, have come to accept this fact.
As an example of statistics, my home state of Illinois experiences an average of 3,500 flu and flu-related deaths every year, and no one panics about those;
Yet, when a new virus comes along and kills only 3 times that number in the past year, all of the sudden it's "serious" and a "pandemic" ( technical term for an illness that spreads across the world ) and we all need to stay inside and "social distance" in order to help keep everyone healthy.
Question:
Where was the concern about the over 4,000 deaths in Illinois lost to influenza in 1993?
Answer:
There was none, at least in the public sphere.
Question: Where is the concern about the almost 11,000 deaths lost to CoVid-19 in Illinois in 2020?
Answer:
Schools are shut down ( for the second time ), restaurants and other businesses are restricted or closed and measures are introduced that very nearly force people not to interact with one another.
Odd...but that's just my thinking
If you all want a fool-proof measure of keeping out the virus,
then you'll need the equivalent of HazMat / Bio suits with self-contained breathing apparatus to even come close.
But as I see it, in order to help avoid wide-spread panic, they have to tell the population at large something.
To me, health experts think that they can control these things, but by no means will those in the medical field ever completely defeat at least most of them.
Examples of this very obvious proof include the fact that influenza strains that came on the scene within the past 500 years are still among us and are still killing people every year...
And we, as a society, have come to accept this fact.
As an example of statistics, my home state of Illinois experiences an average of 3,500 flu and flu-related deaths every year, and no one panics about those;
Yet, when a new virus comes along and kills only 3 times that number in the past year, all of the sudden it's "serious" and a "pandemic" ( technical term for an illness that spreads across the world ) and we all need to stay inside and "social distance" in order to help keep everyone healthy.
Question:
Where was the concern about the over 4,000 deaths in Illinois lost to influenza in 1993?
Answer:
There was none, at least in the public sphere.
Question: Where is the concern about the almost 11,000 deaths lost to CoVid-19 in Illinois in 2020?
Answer:
Schools are shut down ( for the second time ), restaurants and other businesses are restricted or closed and measures are introduced that very nearly force people not to interact with one another.
Odd...but that's just my thinking
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Dave G
Well-Known Member
3) Viruses are basically uncontrollable outside of certain parameters...
Pretty much once they're "out of the box", they aren't going back into it;
No matter what we as mere men do, only the Lord can actually stop anyone from getting sick or heal those that are;
Either it's by strengthening what He's given us as part of our body's immune system, or by allowing us to "discover" items in the creation around us that we can use to bolster it or kill the things that are in the environment around us.
In the end, we are all at the mercy of the living God.
we should be obeying the powers that be as much as lies within us without disobeying Him.
If they mandate a law telling us we have to wear masks in public, then that's what we'll have to do.
If it's voluntary at a governmental level and businesses decide to restrict people from coming in their doors because they aren't wearing one, then we have a choice...
Accede to their requirements, buy from those who don't mandate it, or buy products online.
Let's consider those around us...
But realize that illnesses, no matter what they are called, can, will and do happen...
and there's very little that any of us can do to completely stop them.
Trust in the Lord, my friends...
we have been given that privilege.
Pretty much once they're "out of the box", they aren't going back into it;
No matter what we as mere men do, only the Lord can actually stop anyone from getting sick or heal those that are;
Either it's by strengthening what He's given us as part of our body's immune system, or by allowing us to "discover" items in the creation around us that we can use to bolster it or kill the things that are in the environment around us.
In the end, we are all at the mercy of the living God.
Per the Lord's commandments to us as believers,
we should be obeying the powers that be as much as lies within us without disobeying Him.
If they mandate a law telling us we have to wear masks in public, then that's what we'll have to do.
If it's voluntary at a governmental level and businesses decide to restrict people from coming in their doors because they aren't wearing one, then we have a choice...
Accede to their requirements, buy from those who don't mandate it, or buy products online.
Let's consider those around us...
But realize that illnesses, no matter what they are called, can, will and do happen...
and there's very little that any of us can do to completely stop them.
Trust in the Lord, my friends...
we have been given that privilege.
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You got something against Bermuda shorts? Why didnt you include them
kathleenmariekg
Active Member
Masks are mandated where I am. We are supposed to wear them while walking on the street, but I cannot breathe well enough to do that. I walk at least 6 miles most days, and up until recently the heat was deadly. But I always put my mask right on when entering a building or waiting in an outdoor line.
It is the law: I don't bother to have an opinion beyond that. I don't have enough science background and do not trust the media enough to believe that I can come to a logical conclusion to anything about masks.
I don't like to leave my house without ID of some kind, but I often do. Pedestrian deaths are high here, and walking is dangerous. If I get hit, it is better that people know who I am. I have to walk a distance to get water every day and I would prefer to lug that water back without having to try and keep a bag on my shoulder or anything from falling out of my pockets, while I am literally running across 8 lane roads, with a jug of water in each hand.
Thick soled shoes, even to get the mail. There are tumbleweed thorns that actually pierce through the soles of my thinner soled shoes.
On long walks, when I am already juggling a bag with my phone and ID, I always have my earphones playing some type of fast music to keep me moving. Music makes work easier, and I have a lot of miles to cover each day.
I usually carry another bag in my bag, so that when I am loaded down with heavy groceries on the way home, I can carry even loads on each shoulder, and then try to keep one hand free and one with some lighter packages in the plastic bags that the store gives me. It really helps to have a hand free and resting. Two miles is a long way to carry anything without a break. I have to balance heavy loads, because I don't weigh very much, and I tip over easily.
When I needed a new toilet seat, I had to carry that home on my head part of the time, to give my arms a rest. I must have looked a sight, walking down the street with a toilet seat on my head. LOL.
I carry as little as possible, but I carry those things.
It is the law: I don't bother to have an opinion beyond that. I don't have enough science background and do not trust the media enough to believe that I can come to a logical conclusion to anything about masks.
I don't like to leave my house without ID of some kind, but I often do. Pedestrian deaths are high here, and walking is dangerous. If I get hit, it is better that people know who I am. I have to walk a distance to get water every day and I would prefer to lug that water back without having to try and keep a bag on my shoulder or anything from falling out of my pockets, while I am literally running across 8 lane roads, with a jug of water in each hand.
Thick soled shoes, even to get the mail. There are tumbleweed thorns that actually pierce through the soles of my thinner soled shoes.
On long walks, when I am already juggling a bag with my phone and ID, I always have my earphones playing some type of fast music to keep me moving. Music makes work easier, and I have a lot of miles to cover each day.
I usually carry another bag in my bag, so that when I am loaded down with heavy groceries on the way home, I can carry even loads on each shoulder, and then try to keep one hand free and one with some lighter packages in the plastic bags that the store gives me. It really helps to have a hand free and resting. Two miles is a long way to carry anything without a break. I have to balance heavy loads, because I don't weigh very much, and I tip over easily.
When I needed a new toilet seat, I had to carry that home on my head part of the time, to give my arms a rest. I must have looked a sight, walking down the street with a toilet seat on my head. LOL.
I carry as little as possible, but I carry those things.
Kathleen, I have the same situation. I am unable to wear a tight fitting mask. Thus I always have a scarf with me- and I will hold it over my pie hole and nose. Have had very little problem with that. When people question, I just tell them (truthfully) okay, I will wear a mask, but you will have to call 9-1-1 and you will be responsible for paying for the ambulance. That usually does it! ----- Wish I could walk six miles! with my medical condition - about 2 miles is my max.
I go out for my PT -and I live on a busy street, so I know what you mean. What I do - is wear my Military ID Dog tags. You could get a set and in addition to your name - list a phone number - or any other important info. You could probably get a set at a pet store order a set here: Custom Military Dog Tags | Made In The USA | DogTags.com --- (disclamer-I have no financial interest in this company - just googled and found it.
Please - when walking on a busy street - DO NOT have both ears covered with the earphones - and keep volume down. And naturally, walk facing traffic.
(disclaimer - I am a driving instructor - [retired] as for me when I walk - I count - I will count how many cars pass me, I will count how many seconds it takes a car to drive out of sight - I count --- you name it. is it dumb - yea- but it works for me! Also when I walk I collect bottles - hey - at 5 cents a bottle - it adds up after time. Not bad - getting some exercise and getting paid! Even if I only get 10 bottles a week -for 50 weeks = 25 dollars (and that amount is extremely low) I use that bottle money to pay a little extra on my car payment - which helps reduce the interest. (remember - I count a lot - even how much interest I am saving!)
kathleenmariekg
Active Member
So much good information! Thanks!!!!
I cannot pick up the bottles, though: the homeless and "illegal" people need them to survive, and usually get to them first, anyway. God bless them, please! I have never seen anything like the poverty that I see here. What I see is only like what I have seen in pictures of Africa. The first time I saw an emaciated person lying on the side of the road, too weak to swat the flies off, I just sobbed the whole way home.
I need to get some sort of small bag that hang around my neck, instead of always reaching for a larger shoulder bag. But dog tags sounds really good.
I have never lived anywhere that there were sidewalks and crosswalks along such fast moving and wide roads. This is new to me. We have record breaking numbers of pedestrian fatalities here.
I can make it two miles away, shop, and make it two miles back, carrying about 30 pounds. That is my max, before resting, eating, and hydrating. Then I can go out again and again, but I must rest and refuel first.
Athletes talk about over-training. I am at my max right now, and sometimes cross the line of injuries instead of getting in better shape. I keep getting "runner's black toe" and it ain't pretty.
God knows what he is doing and I trust him.
Have you ever talked to your elected officials of your town - about the number of collisions on that road?
(noticed - I did NOT say "accident" -
Is there a local paper? Write a letter to the editor, Have a reporter write a story about the number who have died?
Is there a neighborhood watch? Have you called the police dept about putting up a electronic sign - which adivses
drivers of their speed - (and if speeding - the light blinks) and if necessary have the police write tickets.....
Another words - take action!
(noticed - I did NOT say "accident" -
Is there a local paper? Write a letter to the editor, Have a reporter write a story about the number who have died?
Is there a neighborhood watch? Have you called the police dept about putting up a electronic sign - which adivses
drivers of their speed - (and if speeding - the light blinks) and if necessary have the police write tickets.....
Another words - take action!
kathleenmariekg
Active Member
The newspapers are full discussion of the programs in place that are actually helping reduce what could be worse. Unless we forbid the poor to walk on the sidewalks, they will continue to be mowed down.
I guess we could fight to reduce the speed limits, but that is not going to happen. This city is divided into two major classes: those that live behind the gates and those that live outside the gates. The oldest main roads go straight through what is now the slums, and those people that live behind the gates are not going to reach their gates any slower.
There was more subtle injustice where I was from; here the injustice is blatant and straight in your face. I have learned that subtle injustices and abuse and neglect can be more damaging that blatant ones. At least here I can label and state the horrors that I see, and I am seldom told that they don't exist. Blatant abuse reduces the amount of "secondary wounding" that victims experience.
Secondary Wounding
I guess we could fight to reduce the speed limits, but that is not going to happen. This city is divided into two major classes: those that live behind the gates and those that live outside the gates. The oldest main roads go straight through what is now the slums, and those people that live behind the gates are not going to reach their gates any slower.
There was more subtle injustice where I was from; here the injustice is blatant and straight in your face. I have learned that subtle injustices and abuse and neglect can be more damaging that blatant ones. At least here I can label and state the horrors that I see, and I am seldom told that they don't exist. Blatant abuse reduces the amount of "secondary wounding" that victims experience.
Secondary Wounding
Secondary wounding occurs when the people, the institutions, caregivers, and others to whom the survivor turns for emotional, legal, financial, medical, or other assistance respond in one of the following ways:
Disbelief:
Commonly, people will deny or disbelieve the trauma survivor's account of the trauma. Or they will minimize or discount the magnitude of the event(s), its meaning to the victim, its impact on the victim s life.
Blaming the Victim:
On some level, people may blame the victim for the traumatic event, thereby increasing the victim's sense of self-blame and low self-esteem.
Stigmatization:
Stigmatization occurs when others judge the victim negatively for normal reactions to the traumatic event or for any long-term symptoms he or she may suffer. These judgments can take the following forms:
• Ridicule of, or condescension toward, the survivor
• Misinterpretation of the survivor's psychological distress, as a sign of deep psychological problems or moral or mental deficiency or otherwise giving the survivor's PTSD symptoms negative labels.
• An implication or outright statement that the survivor's symptoms reflect his or her desire for financial gain, attention, or unwarranted sympathy.
• Punishment of the victim, rather than the offender, or in other ways depriving the victim of justice.
Denial of Assistance:
Trauma survivors are sometimes denied promised or unexpected services on the basis that they do not need or are not entitled to such services or compensation.
Disbelief:
Commonly, people will deny or disbelieve the trauma survivor's account of the trauma. Or they will minimize or discount the magnitude of the event(s), its meaning to the victim, its impact on the victim s life.
Blaming the Victim:
On some level, people may blame the victim for the traumatic event, thereby increasing the victim's sense of self-blame and low self-esteem.
Stigmatization:
Stigmatization occurs when others judge the victim negatively for normal reactions to the traumatic event or for any long-term symptoms he or she may suffer. These judgments can take the following forms:
• Ridicule of, or condescension toward, the survivor
• Misinterpretation of the survivor's psychological distress, as a sign of deep psychological problems or moral or mental deficiency or otherwise giving the survivor's PTSD symptoms negative labels.
• An implication or outright statement that the survivor's symptoms reflect his or her desire for financial gain, attention, or unwarranted sympathy.
• Punishment of the victim, rather than the offender, or in other ways depriving the victim of justice.
Denial of Assistance:
Trauma survivors are sometimes denied promised or unexpected services on the basis that they do not need or are not entitled to such services or compensation.
alexander284
Well-Known Member
A pocket or vest sized New Testament. (Preferably, with the Psalms, and Proverbs, included.)
kathleenmariekg
Active Member
I wish I could see the text in one. I am gradually losing my eyesight, and attempts to get glasses have been ... eventful and fruitless. The Lord knows what he is doing with that: I think I understand part of his plan, but ... I am truly frustrated by my inability to carry and be able to read a small-text Bible.
kathleenmariekg
Active Member
We are not talking about Bug-out-bags, but an English Solar Bible Bus is my replacement for a small text Bible. I would never leave my home for more than 24 hours without this thing.
English Solar Bible Bus Complete Five Year Series by J. Vernon McGee
English Solar Bible Bus Complete Five Year Series by J. Vernon McGee