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What is the time of Jacob’s trouble?

Hobie

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Sorry for the delay in replying.

We need to understand prophecy in terms of the whole sweep of prophecy, which centres on the incarnation of the Son of God, Son of David, Seed of Abraham, Seed of the woman, our LORD & Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Covenant with Abraham, the Old Covenant (Sinai), the nation of Israel, the promised Land, the Davidic Kingdom, the tabernacle & temple with priesthood & sacrifices were all signs & pointers to God's purpose & plan of redemption. The great & enduring continuum is Christ himself & the restoration of all creation in the NH&NE.

Specific prophecies such as "the time of Jacob's trouble" show God dealing with his people in many different situations. Likewise the time in Egypt & the Passover deliverance. The whole Old Covenant situation shows God dealing with the people of Israel as they alternated between obedience & unbelief, with the faithful remnant living by faith through times of blessing & adversity. (Hab. 2)

The great prophecy is Gabriel's 70 weeks prophecy, which teaches us that the Messiah will appear after 69 weeks (of years) & finish the work of redemption of God's people in the midst of the 70th week. After that the city, the sanctuary with sacrifices & offerings have no significance. The OC will be obsolete & the NC will stand supreme. The AD 70 destruction will totally end the OC.

The 35 years from Pentecost to the destruction, & the 2,000 years so far of the Gospel "last days" (Acts 2) show God's longsuffering with sinful man while giving us time for repentance. (2 Peter 3) I believe Revelation reals with the period leading up the the destruction. The opening verses of the prophecy make it clear that the events are "at hand" rather than for a supposed fantastically complex "end of end times" scenario.

I haven't read John Gill, but as I understand what I have read of non-dispy writers, the general view of prophecy is of the events leading up to the return of Christ, & that Revelation is dealing with repeated events throughout the present "millennium." We should learn from them in living through the various events & tribulations - we have "ears to hear" - but we should not treat them as future "end times" prophecy. Prophecy effectively finished with the destruction.

We are now living in a "watch & pray" situation, not knowing when our Lord will return. See the closing verses of Mat. 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 & 2 Peter 3.
The whole prophecy pointed to Christ at His first coming, so it takes a real twisting of the truth to put it to the end times. Here is a good overview... https://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_Jesus_70-week_prophecy_Daniel#!
 

Hobie

Well-Known Member
We are seeing more of the signs, as the cold in Texas has shut down Nuclear, Coal, Liquid Gas Power Plants and even Wind power turbines generating electricity with century breaking temperatures...

Why Is Texas Experiencing Power Outages?

Texas Power Outages to Drag Into Third Day as Deep Freeze Persists

Bitter cold deepens state's power crisis

With people out of power and water for days and seeing icicles inside their homes...

Frozen Ceiling Fan Photo Shows Brutal Reality Of American Cold Snap
 

Oseas3

Active Member
IS THIS A WARNING?

Yes, it is


Well, what does the Word of God say? The Word is God, and He says: James 5:1 to 6 CJB - Complete Jewish Bible
1 - Next, a word for the rich: weep and wail over the hardships coming upon you!
2 Your riches have rotted, and your clothes have become moth-eaten;
3 your gold and silver have corroded, and their corrosion will be evidence against you and will eat up your flesh like fire! This is the acharit-hayamim, and you have been storing up wealth!

4 Listen! The wages you have fraudulently withheld from the workers who mowed your fields are calling out against you, and the outcries of those who harvested have reached the ears of Adonai-Tzva’ot.

5 You have led a life of luxury and self-indulgence here on earth — in a time of slaughter, you have gone on eating to your heart’s content.
6 You have condemned, you have murdered the innocent; they have not withstood you.

7 So, brothers, be patient until the Lord returns. See how the farmer waits for the precious “fruit of the earth” — he is patient over it until it receives the fall and spring rains. 8 You too, be patient; keep up your courage; for the Lord’s return is near.

Yes, for "GOD will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.-Romans 9:v.28.

And JESUS warned, saying: Matthew 24:v.22-23
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. ((( BE CAREFUL, TAKE CARE, let no MAN deceives you by any means:
the time of manifestation of the Beast of the earth arrived- Revelation 13:v.11 -, for the Christian world is infested of apostasy and idolatry, in fact he will manifest himself as a lamb, as a messiah, actually a false lamb, a false messiah, the MAN of sin, son of perdition, and he will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called GOD or that is worshiped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God ))).

NOTE:
The Beast of the earth is an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah of the Jews, he will be the head of the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Judaism, so there will be two Beasts on the earth very soon, the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:v.1-10 and the Beast of earth - Revelation 13:v.11-18.

But the Beast of sea will be wounded to death or mortally from now on, and the Jewish false messiah, the son of perdition, will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority -Revelation 13:v.2- , and "the deadly wound of the Beast of sea will be healed: and all the world will wonder after the Beast, and
they will worship the Beast of earth, the false messiah, AN IMPOSTOR,- the Dragon - which gave power unto the Beast of sea: and they will worship the Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast of sea? who is able to make War with him?"-Revelation 13:v.3-4. Yeah, who is able to make War with him? By the way, the fearful(the cowards), and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

The current President of USA, devout catholic, a follower of the Beast of sea - the Papacy with his woman, the great whore - the Roman Catholic Church, which rides upon the Beast of sea, yeah, the President will be at the side of the Jewish false messiah when he gives his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority to the Pope, the Beast of sea. By the way, not at the side of the current Pope Francis, no, he will die soon, but at the side of the next elected Pope, maybe will be nicknamed Paulus VII, it is he who will sit on the Throne of Satan with great Authority and Power for 42 months or 1,260 days-Revelation 13:v.5 to 10. Check it out..

Let no MAN deceives you, people of God, be careful or get ready.

Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of demons, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird, all have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and GOD has remembered her iniquities.

 
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