Originally posted by DeclareHim:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Claudia_T:
I had an NIV Bible at one time and they actually removed about 17 different Bible verses completely out of there. Not just changing words.
That's because the oldest and best manuscripts do not contain them.[sarcasm] I love how so many people use smear tatics against other versions.[/sarcasm] It's so un-Christ like. </font>[/QUOTE]I'm not to grand about the NIV. I think of it as a paraphase. Its great to read...very easy. So it does have its place. But what kills me is the KJV people that attack it with groundless points.
I was told of the "great translation" debate years ago. It was back in 1975-1976 when I 1st heard about it. I was sold on the idea at 1st. I read a few books and thought I knew it all. One time I even took a well known preacher aside to set him straight. This was at a young age of around 19. This great man of God showed much grace to me..and let me know there was more to it then what I thought. I went away unchanged, for I knew I was right. How could this guy not believe this? He just didn't know the facts. I got more books...and study as much as I could. This was where I went wrong. I started seeing the KJV only people misleading and not telling the truth...or not the full story.
I still didn't change right away. I still felt that the TR was much stronger then those old bad MSS. I thought what I really needed to do was learn some greek. I still do not knew greek that well, but I did study it for 2 years. This placed my case on the rocks. Half way though my studies in greek, I saw the anwser was not in the greek, so it must be in the history of the church. I read all I could on the history of the church. This made my case very weak indeed. It become clear to me that those writing the KJV only books were indeed lying or did not have a clue what they were talking about.
Now, it is not that I now set myself up as one that "KNOWS". As in all learning..the more you know, the more you know you know very little. I can not tell anyone the truth, for I do not know the truth when it comes to the proper greek. But this one thing I do know. Most all of these so called KJV books are filled with lie after lie. If there is a case to be made. why lie about it?
My seeking for the truth started with This in mind..."The KJV was the best, and I will prove it" 30 years later i'm here to tell you that I like the KJV but it is not the best. I carry the KJV Bible to church and read from it the most. Yet I study from the ESV and or the Greek-English Study Bible.
In the beginning of the debate it was over greek text. We now have a bunch of crack pots that worship a translation and have not a clue what they are talking about. The net is full of this stupid stuff, and at its best, will only crush a good church.
The NIV is a good "reading" Bible. Its really not made for study. There are to many word placements in the for me. Yet this thing about the NIV dropping the name of God is wogwash. The KJV dropped the LORDS name more times then the NIV.
anyway..i have said to much now. save your hate mail. I know how some feel about this, but they need to know just as i was told when i was very young..
"there is more to it, then what you have read in those books"
In Christ..James