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Doctrinal Note on Marian titles: Mother of the faithful, not Co-redemptrix - Vatican News
The document of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, approved by Pope Leo XIV, offers clarifications on titles applied to the Blessed Virgin ...
The concept of Mary as "co-redemptrix" is a theological idea that has been debated for decades, but a recent Vatican document, approved by Pope Leo, states that it is not appropriate to use this title to define her role.
While acknowledging Mary's unique cooperation in Christ's redemptive work through her fiat at the Annunciation and her spiritual suffering at the foot of the cross, the document clarifies that she is subordinate to Christ, the sole Redeemer. The title "co-redemptrix" is discouraged because it can imply equality with Christ and cause confusion, potentially obscuring his central role.
Titles such as “Mother of Believers,” “Spiritual Mother,” “Mother of the Faithful” are noticed with approval in the Note.
Conversely, the title of “Co-redemptrix” is deemed inappropriate and problematic. The title of “Mediatrix” is considered unacceptable when it takes on a meaning that excludes Jesus Christ; however, it can used appropriately so long as it expresses an inclusive and participatory mediation that glorifies the power of Christ.
The titles “Mother of Grace” and “Mediatrix of All Graces” are considered acceptable when used in a very precise sense, but the document also warns of particularly broad explanations of the meaning of the terms.
It would need to be re-posted on the Open Forum.
Yes, it would.
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Any BB member may do so. It would be my understanding. OP was interested in fellow Baptist thoughs on it.
I would call it progress.
That puts a chink in the armor of quite a few Catholics
They still see her as being intercessor, and very top among all humans in heaven , save for JesusDoctrinal Note on Marian titles: Mother of the faithful, not Co-redemptrix - Vatican News
The document of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, approved by Pope Leo XIV, offers clarifications on titles applied to the Blessed Virgin ...www.vaticannews.va
The concept of Mary as "co-redemptrix" is a theological idea that has been debated for decades, but a recent Vatican document, approved by Pope Leo, states that it is not appropriate to use this title to define her role.
While acknowledging Mary's unique cooperation in Christ's redemptive work through her fiat at the Annunciation and her spiritual suffering at the foot of the cross, the document clarifies that she is subordinate to Christ, the sole Redeemer. The title "co-redemptrix" is discouraged because it can imply equality with Christ and cause confusion, potentially obscuring his central role.
Titles such as “Mother of Believers,” “Spiritual Mother,” “Mother of the Faithful” are noticed with approval in the Note.
Conversely, the title of “Co-redemptrix” is deemed inappropriate and problematic. The title of “Mediatrix” is considered unacceptable when it takes on a meaning that excludes Jesus Christ; however, it can used appropriately so long as it expresses an inclusive and participatory mediation that glorifies the power of Christ.
The titles “Mother of Grace” and “Mediatrix of All Graces” are considered acceptable when used in a very precise sense, but the document also warns of particularly broad explanations of the meaning of the terms.
i saw some say that we never promulgated her as co-redemptrix! Really?
And taking the place of the Holy Spirit. Say it isn’t so!
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Luke 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
We Protestants and Baptists seem to have an overwhelming fear that paying any attention to mother Mary will result in elevating her too highly. But treating mother Mary as just another believer is not biblical. Thus, we see one extreme opposed to the other extreme.
In our Baptist circles, Mary is typically ignored or just mentioned briefly in a sermon on great women of faith in the Bible. Only rarely is an entire sermon or book devoted to Mary the mother of God the Son. But she really is very special as a devout handmaiden of the Lord, a woman that all generations should call blessed in a unique and distinctly honorable way. A universal and timelessly enduring recognition.
“Evangelicals must be careful not to elevate the role of Mary above that which is presented in Scripture,” said R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in the March 21, 2005 issue of TIME magazine.
Mohler is among several theologians and scholars quoted in a TIME cover story examining the Protestant view of Mary, the mother of Jesus.
The article describes a recent trend within Protestant scholarship and church life of elevating Mary as a model of Christian devotion who is deserving of more attention. Mohler acknowledges that evangelicals must look to Scripture as they consider Mary. But he cautions against singling her out as a mediator between God and man or an elevated model of Christian devotion.
“Insofar as evangelicals may have marginalized Mary’s presentation in the Bible, it needs to be recovered,” he says in the article. “But the closer I look at the New Testament, the more convinced I am that it does not single her out for the kind of attention that is being proposed. We have not missed the point about her. To construct a new role for her is simply overreaching.”
In contrast to Mohler, the article presents Beverly Gaventa, a Princeton professor who believes that Mary has been the victim of “a Protestant conspiracy of silence: theologically, liturgically and devotionally.”
Gaventa, author of “Mary: Glimpses of the Mother of Jesus,” concludes that Mary appears earlier and at more strategic moments in the life of Jesus than any other New Testament figure. She urges Protestants to speak of Mary more frequently from the pulpit and in academic papers.
We Protestants and Baptists seem to have an overwhelming fear that paying any attention to mother Mary will result in elevating her too highly. But treating mother Mary as just another believer is not biblical. Thus, we see one extreme opposed to the other extreme.
In our Baptist circles, Mary is typically ignored or just mentioned briefly in a sermon on great women of faith in the Bible. Only rarely is an entire sermon or book devoted to Mary the mother of God the Son. But she really is very special as a devout handmaiden of the Lord, a woman that all generations should call blessed in a unique and distinctly honorable way. A universal and timelessly enduring recognition.
“Evangelicals must be careful not to elevate the role of Mary above that which is presented in Scripture,” said R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in the March 21, 2005 issue of TIME magazine.
Mohler is among several theologians and scholars quoted in a TIME cover story examining the Protestant view of Mary, the mother of Jesus.
The article describes a recent trend within Protestant scholarship and church life of elevating Mary as a model of Christian devotion who is deserving of more attention. Mohler acknowledges that evangelicals must look to Scripture as they consider Mary. But he cautions against singling her out as a mediator between God and man or an elevated model of Christian devotion.
“Insofar as evangelicals may have marginalized Mary’s presentation in the Bible, it needs to be recovered,” he says in the article. “But the closer I look at the New Testament, the more convinced I am that it does not single her out for the kind of attention that is being proposed. We have not missed the point about her. To construct a new role for her is simply overreaching.”
In contrast to Mohler, the article presents Beverly Gaventa, a Princeton professor who believes that Mary has been the victim of “a Protestant conspiracy of silence: theologically, liturgically and devotionally.”
Gaventa, author of “Mary: Glimpses of the Mother of Jesus,” concludes that Mary appears earlier and at more strategic moments in the life of Jesus than any other New Testament figure. She urges Protestants to speak of Mary more frequently from the pulpit and in academic papers.
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Think that we far more disservice to Joseph, as mary gets PLENTHY of acclaim, and he gets maybe a mention on fathers day
Ahhh, your not a Catholic. In my tradition, both Mary & Joseph are elevated. Mary for being the mother of Christ & Joseph as the earthly father, protector, teacher etc..