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What led to the downfall of major denominations?

padredurand

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Well spoken. I would not call them evangelical nor Arminian because I know Arminian denominations such as Free Will Baptists that are not heretical. I have sent many letters to UMC churches in the area and even spoken with a pastor and like the American Baptist pastor a full rejection of the Bible being the sole authority for faith and practice. I also found it amazing that he rejected the Arminian gospel tract that I had mailed as well as the John Piper tract since they both spoke on sin and Hell and have the gospel presentation. So thats another reason why I would not call the UMC arminian. My word for them is HERETICS.

You are right. They are neither evangelical or Arminian. I know there are born again pastors in the UMC. They are few and far between especially in the Ichabod Northeast. Most of the others have no theological identity. Nothing! They are comfortable putting Friedrich Nietzsche and the Apostle Paul on equal footing.

I crossed swords with them for 13 years. I spent most of my time standing between the powers and the congregations protecting the flock from the wolves within the camp. I don't mean to discourage you in your letter writing but understand they are as deeply committed to their permutation of religion as you are to yours. I stayed three years longer than I wished because the folks in the pews were starving for the Word. For those above me...

Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme.
1 Timothy 1:20 NAS77
 

evangelist6589

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You are right. They are neither evangelical or Arminian. I know there are born again pastors in the UMC. They are few and far between especially in the Ichabod Northeast. Most of the others have no theological identity. Nothing! They are comfortable putting Friedrich Nietzsche and the Apostle Paul on equal footing.

I crossed swords with them for 13 years. I spent most of my time standing between the powers and the congregations protecting the flock from the wolves within the camp. I don't mean to discourage you in your letter writing but understand they are as deeply committed to their permutation of religion as you are to yours. I stayed three years longer than I wished because the folks in the pews were starving for the Word. For those above me...

Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme.
1 Timothy 1:20 NAS77

Well I do not only write them, as I write cults, and catholics as well. I do have a phone meeting with a UMC pastor coming up. But yes probably a wasted effort as terms of persuading them. But I am not to persuade just to plant seeds of the gospel and let God draw the elect to salvation. The UMC apostates are probably not the elect but regardless I always strive to give them a fair warning of the burning hell they will be facing and the blackest darkness (book of Jude) they will receive. With some I have written them a second follow up letter and talked much about Hell and the black darkness and terror that awaits them. I also use my most condemning tracts (from Chic Tracts) to hand them. I only do this if they remain proud. But if they humble themselves and are open to what I have to say I will give them grace.
 
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