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What led you to depart from Dispensational teachings?

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Yeshua1

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Rhetorician said:
For me, I guess it was that God had "two peoples," one on earth and one in Heaven. I am presently doing some in depth reading on Covenantal Theology and how the 17th Century Particular Baptists of England departed from the Westminster brethren. Oh well. We get old and learn better I suppose. But I still believe God will do something supernatural with the Jews at the end.

Just my two cents worth.

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Charles Spurgeon was a Covenant premil, who saw a future for national israel!
 
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"TCassidy,

I never arrived. I got a Scofield Reference Bible right after I was saved and began to read the dispensational notes and was appalled by Scofield's insistence that (at least some) OT conversions were the result of what he called "pure law."
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I was glad when I bought my first two Scofield bibles...some of the notes seemed helpful as a young believer....later I used them to demonstrate how a sincere believer could get off track.
I did not have much to contrast with it so I was just trying to absorb what I could..

I was equally appalled by his "3 church theory." The "2 church theory" of Catholicism/Protestantism was bad enough, but he had to add the "true church" theory to the Local Church and Universal Church.
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Through many decades of personal study and prayer I came to what I call the "Minimalist" position.

There are 3 "dispensations."


3. The dispensation of preparing for and living under the Physical, Universal, Earthly Reign of the Lord Jesus Christ. We call this "The End of Days" or "The Consummation of the Ages." It includes but is not limited to the short period of time leading up to the Second Advent, followed by the Millennial Kingdom (the Rule of Christ on Earth), which ends with the New Heavens and New Earth.
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Do you view that as fulfilling in part...rom8?

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

You do not have a problem with the Lord of Glory dwelling on the earth with unsaved who remain in rebellion?
 
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Iconoclast

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TCassidy said:
No.

It is not for me to tell Him what He can and cannot do. :)
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Well of course not, but...who do you see as being physically here on earth? at that time? who goes into the preview of the eternal state?

where do you see the romans 8 verses?
 
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What led you to depart from Dispensational teachings?

The same thing that led me to depart from Pelagianism, reading my Bible.
 
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Van

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I departed from "Traditional Dispensation Theology" and became a "Progressive Dispensation Theology" advocated after I looked into traditional dispensation's biblical basis. The alarm bells started ringing for me, while sitting in church. The Pastor, at an effort for humor, took a swipe at the children's son "Father Abraham." I was familiar with the song because we used it regularly in AWANA.
It says believers are children of Abraham. Father Abraham has many children, I am one of them and so are you.

After reading and rereading Galatians Chapter 3, I became convinced that the view that we were not children of Abraham and heirs just like the believers with a Jewish blood line was totally wrong and racist.
 
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Van

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Yeshua1 said:
I think that none of us here are Apostles, so quite sure we all have some theology not quite on the mark!
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Sadly, a group of somewhat like-minded posters not only miss the mark, they have Maggie's drawers.
 
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