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what makes a church/group become a Cult?

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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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Yeshua1 said:
Repent of what? Paul told jailer to believe in the Lord Jesus and be saved!
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what did Jesus say in Luke 24:47? and Peter in Acts 2:37-38? lets keep to these two for the present. I would like to know what you think that these passages mean.
 
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MB

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SavedByGrace said:
No sorrow and guilt?
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The Holy Spirit is the motivatior of Conviction. Conviction is the motivator of repentance. Sure regret and shame bring guilt and sorrow This is what conviction is about. Making us all realize we have sinned against God turning us towards God to be forgiven if we are willing.
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Yeshua1 said:
Which would mean realizing that I cannot save myself by what I do!
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Only Calvinist claim this as the doctrine of others. That is; saving one's self. I've never made that claim. Yet I'm accused of it by you quite often. no one is saved by force.
2Co_8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
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Lodic

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SavedByGrace said:
The Bible says that repentance is FOR forgiveness of sins and therefore has to come before salvation. Both Luke and Acts is very clear on this
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To repent in order to be forgiven sounds like a "work" we must do in order to be saved. Scripture is very clear on salvation by faith alone. Please explain, as I must be missing something.
 
SavedByGrace

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Lodic said:
To repent in order to be forgiven sounds like a "work" we must do in order to be saved. Scripture is very clear on salvation by faith alone. Please explain, as I must be missing something.
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Show from Scripture where it says that salvation is by faith alone
 
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AustinC

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SavedByGrace said:
what did Jesus say in Luke 24:47? and Peter in Acts 2:37-38? lets keep to these two for the present. I would like to know what you think that these passages mean.
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Those two passages have already been addressed with you. Do you have more than a couple sentences, out of context, to assist your argument?
 
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Yeshua1

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Lodic said:
To repent in order to be forgiven sounds like a "work" we must do in order to be saved. Scripture is very clear on salvation by faith alone. Please explain, as I must be missing something.
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We cannot do that ourselves, as it takes the working of the Holy Spirit Himself!
 
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SavedByGrace

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MB said:
The Holy Spirit is the motivatior of Conviction. Conviction is the motivator of repentance. Sure regret and shame bring guilt and sorrow This is what conviction is about. Making us all realize we have sinned against God turning us towards God to be forgiven if we are willing.
MB
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You didn't say that in #104
 
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Yeshua1

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MB said:
Only Calvinist claim this as the doctrine of others. That is; saving one's self. I've never made that claim. Yet I'm accused of it by you quite often. no one is saved by force.
2Co_8:12 For if there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not.
MB
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None can decide apart from the working of the Holy Spirit!
 
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