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donnA said:anti-christian
This statement, of course, is really of zero value in respect to assessing Mr. Obama's value system. Many persons, in the course of their education will study value systems that they end up rejecting."In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school" "I studied the Koran.."
I would agree. And I think that this is to his credit. Perhaps poncho believes that his "globalist" stance is a bad thing (although I am only speculating as to what poncho believes).poncho said:Globalist.
Andre said:I would agree. And I think that this is to his credit. Perhaps poncho believes that his "globalist" stance is a bad thing (although I am only speculating as to what poncho believes).
Globalism, in the sense of being equally concerned for the welfare of all people is, of course, deeply Christian.donnA said:glob·al·ism
the attitude or policy of placing the interests of the entire world above those of individual nations
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/globalism
It can be described as a process by which the people of the world are unified into a single society and function together.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
unified into one,, sounds like one world goverment under one world religion, and it ain't christianity.
Nothing I read about globalism sounds acceptable as an american or a christian.
July 16, 2007Andre said:Globalism, in the sense of being equally concerned for the welfare of all people is, of course, deeply Christian.
12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.
This is the sense in which "globalism" is a Christian value. Obviously, if we are all united in worship of a false god, that's bad.
National sovereignty is not the highest consideration for the obedient Christian - enacting the Kingdom values set forth by Jesus is. Now sometimes these will not conflict. But when they do, our primary allegiance is not to our country.poncho said:The recent defeat of the amnesty bill in the Senate came after outraged Americans made it clear to the political elite that they would not tolerate this legislation, which would further erode our national sovereignty.
The committed Christian will indeed advocate for the position that "our" government should indeed be working for the welfare of all people. It is precisely the "us" versus "them" thinking that the gospel opposes and deconstructs.All along globalists claim a moral high ground, as if our government is responsible for ensuring the general welfare of all people.
"This nation's" traditions are not the highest consideration for the Christian - obedience to Kingdom values is."Perhaps the most seriously damaged victim of this approach is our own constitutional republic, because globalism undermines both the republican and democratic traditions of this nation.
The actual defination of globalism is not christian.Andre said:Globalism, in the sense of being equally concerned for the welfare of all people is, of course, deeply Christian.
12So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. 4Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others.
This is the sense in which "globalism" is a Christian value. Obviously, if we are all united in worship of a false god, that's bad.
Here is the definition you posted:donnA said:The actual defination of globalism is not christian.
Andre said:National sovereignty is not the highest consideration for the obedient Christian - enacting the Kingdom values set forth by Jesus is. Now sometimes these will not conflict. But when they do, our primary allegiance is not to our country.
The committed Christian will indeed advocate for the position that "our" government should indeed be working for the welfare of all people. It is precisely the "us" versus "them" thinking that the gospel opposes and deconstructs.
"This nation's" traditions are not the highest consideration for the Christian - obedience to Kingdom values is."
I have no opinion on the motives of "globalists" that you have been exposed to. Perhaps you are right.
But let's be clear: For the Christian, there is "neither Jew nor Greek". Perhaps the term "globalist" is misleading.
But the obedient follower of the gospel will not pursue policy that directly or indirectly promotes the interests of his own nation preferentially over others. All human beings are equally deserving of dignity and respect, no matter what country they are from.