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What Preachers Won't Preach About

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
If you are thankful for what you have you are not going to expect others to provide for you.

Exactly the kind of stretch and moulding of scripture I am talking about. Thanks for the perfect illustration of what it takes to support political preaching from the pulpit.

'Preach the word!' Full stop.
 

mandym

New Member
Exactly the kind of stretch and moulding [sic]of scripture I am talking about. Thanks for the perfect illustration of what it takes to support political preaching from the pulpit.

'Preach the word!' Full stop.

You may not agree with it but if it takes "invective" remarks to address your disagreement then you most likely are not to secure with your position. Sorry to have wasted my time trying to reasonably discuss this with you.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
You may not agree with it but if it takes "invective" remarks to address your disagreement then you most likely are not to secure with your position. Sorry to have wasted my time trying to reasonably discuss this with you.

It is very difficult to see any reasoning that could claim a verse on being thankful could apply to the morality of taxation. That is a stretch and it is moulding scripture to support a point of view.
 

mandym

New Member
It is very difficult to see any reasoning that could claim a verse on being thankful could apply to the morality of taxation. That is a stretch and it is moulding scripture to support a point of view.

This misrepresent what I said as you have practiced several times in this thread. Please read carefully my posts. I would appreciate it if you would be more careful in the future.
 

NaasPreacher (C4K)

Well-Known Member
This misrepresent [sic] what I said as you have practiced several times in this thread. Please read carefully my posts. I would appreciate it if you would be more careful in the future.

It was in the list of verses on taxation. You applied it to taxation. I did not need to make an application as it was clearly stated in your posts.
 
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David Lamb

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the board is American owned and the server is in America.
That's correct, of course. But as far as I know, there is no posting rule that says that spelling (and presumably, the use of words and phrases) must be the American English way (e.g. Savior, color, sidewalk, one through five, write you) and not the British English versions (like Saviour, colour, pavement, one to five, write to you).

Are you saying that in the five years I have been on this board, I should have been "translating" all my posts into American English? If that's the case, two things strike me: 1) Why has nobody told me before? 2) How do I know which particular words, phrases and spellings need to be changed to make them, "American"? Yes, there are the obvious ones like railroad/railway, gas/petrol, and the like, but I am sure I don't know all the differences between our two versions of English.
 

blackbird

Active Member
A friend told me about this.......
As reported in an article in Your Church magazine, 55 percent of pastors can identify one or more topics on which they would not preach at all or only sparingly, because the sermon could negatively affect their hearers' willingness to attend church in the future.

Among them are:
Politics - 38 percent
Homosexuality - 23 percent
Abortion - 18 percent
Same-sex marriage - 17 percent
War - 17 percent
Women's role in church and home - 13 percent
The doctrine of election - 13 percent
Hell - 7 percent
Money - 3 percent”

http://www.sermoncentral.com/pastor...dium=email&utm_campaign=BetterPreachingUpdate

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I think the real problem is, “preachers deciding what to preach” in the first place.

God’s man should preach God’s message; and let the chips fall where they may.

I'm not afraid to preach on ANY of the above subjects

I've been preaching through the Book of Revelation and am now on Chapter 17----The Great Whore of The Great Tribulation

The Great Whore/Harlot gives rise to the world's false theology(in which we can see several today in their Maturnity Ward)including New Age theology, Globalism, Islam, the Nation of Islam and the Nation of Islam's kissing cousin, the Ku Klux Klan

I do not hesitate to preach on politics---the woes of democracy---communism---socialism----just whatever political subject comes up at the time

I do NOT and will not tell anyone who they MUST vote for---I tell my church that they should vote the convictions of the Lord Jesus Christ and when they are in the voting booth it should not be them voting but Jesus Christ voting THROUGH them

I'm not afraid to lose my church over these issues of the OP
 

Van

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I think Pastor's avoid preaching on topics that would divide their flock. If a church is made up of Calvinistic folks and Arminian folks, a Pastor's sermon would stress the correct view is a mystery and therefore we should hold onto what is good from each view.

As far as politics, God says freedom is better than slavery, so Christians should try to discern who would represent God's view. Free market or central control, capitalism or communism?

The Bible is nearly silent on going against government, but I think God smiled on those who helped Jews escape the death camps.
 

govteach51

New Member
I have not heard a sermon on alcohol in a long, long while...Are there so many Baptists drinking now, the preachers have given up?
 

12strings

Active Member
I have not heard a sermon on alcohol in a long, long while...Are there so many Baptists drinking now, the preachers have given up?

Our pastor does occasionally mention the abuse of alcohol; but does not preach against all consumption, because he does not believe a biblical case can be made for it.
 

Tom Bryant

Well-Known Member
It always depends on what we mean by preaching on politics. Do we mean preaching about which political party or candidate? Do we mean preaching about political issues as it concerns believers?

I preach about political issues such as abortion, marriage, justice etc. But never preach about political parties or candidates.

But for me, the preaching about those issues takes a back seat to preaching about who Jesus is, the salvation He provides to those who believe and what the Bible commands and principles involved in living the Christian life. Personally, for example, I think helping husbands and wives understand what the Bible says in Ephesians 5 (and other passages) will do more to stem same s*x than passing a boat load of laws.
 

freeatlast

New Member
A friend told me about this.......
As reported in an article in Your Church magazine, 55 percent of pastors can identify one or more topics on which they would not preach at all or only sparingly, because the sermon could negatively affect their hearers' willingness to attend church in the future.

Among them are:
Politics - 38 percent
Homosexuality - 23 percent
Abortion - 18 percent
Same-sex marriage - 17 percent
War - 17 percent
Women's role in church and home - 13 percent
The doctrine of election - 13 percent
Hell - 7 percent
Money - 3 percent”

http://www.sermoncentral.com/pastor...dium=email&utm_campaign=BetterPreachingUpdate

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I think the real problem is, “preachers deciding what to preach” in the first place.

God’s man should preach God’s message; and let the chips fall where they may.

It has to do with fearing man more then they fear God, and love money more then truth.
 
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JesusFan

Well-Known Member
WHy Can Black Churches have "Politics" From pulpit, while others churches can't?

NOT suppossed to be able to have politics from the pulpit, yet the Black churches can have politicians in their pulpits, can talk about re election, getting out the vote, support positions officially as a church etc...

yet If other churches would try the same, get socked with threat to lose tax exemption?

"double standard?"

this happens A LOT where I live, in Detroit!
Live in macomb, a suburb of Detroit...
 

blackbird

Active Member
Why would anyone preach politics in the pulpit?
Give us an example of "preach politics" you have in mind!!

Do you mean something like a good ole stomp a mudhole in the democratic party for such and such???

Slinging mud at the GOP front runners??

What exactly do you mean by "Preach politics???"
 

blackbird

Active Member
Why would anyone preach politics in the pulpit?

Give us an example of what you mean by "preach politics"

Keep in mind that the Lord Jesus on various occasion was highly critical of King Herod----using insulting language(but still holy language) when He refered to the King as "that old Fox"
 

freeatlast

New Member
NOT suppossed to be able to have politics from the pulpit, yet the Black churches can have politicians in their pulpits, can talk about re election, getting out the vote, support positions officially as a church etc...

yet If other churches would try the same, get socked with threat to lose tax exemption?

"double standard?"

this happens A LOT where I live, in Detroit!
Live in macomb, a suburb of Detroit...

That is not true. Pastors can preach on political issues as long as they do not support one candidate over another. Also they can preach anything they want if they give up their 501 status which probably needs to be done away with any way.
 

JesusFan

Well-Known Member
That is not true. Pastors can preach on political issues as long as they do not support one candidate over another. Also they can preach anything they want if they give up their 501 status which probably needs to be done away with any way.

here in metro Detroit though, the black churches always have been supporting those from liberal agenda, as they do formally endorse those from liberal side!

just saying if a non Detroit church did exact same thing out in suburbs, would get raised up as viloating church and state, but same stuff happens in Motown, hear the crickets chirping, nothing done wrong!
 
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