What Specific Things Today Would We As Believers Need Faith For?

[seekingthetruth]

Your suspicion about me supposedly having suffered a great loss is mistaken, as are all other intuitive ideas Pewsitters like to come up with as they are trained by their Preachers to do. Your attempted wisdom about me is humanly contrived. Lol.

Can you say just exactly how "wrong" I am when I point out that God refuses to heal only but a small minority of people who come to Him for healing? Or, are you forced by the facts to admit I am not nearly as wrong as the babbling preacher who erroneously claimed the woman was going to be healed, then died?

P.S. You do not need to be so hypersensitive and jumpy in here. God loves you so much He will protect your tiniest feelings with the Breastplate of Righteousness.

P.P.S. You cannot speak for the goodness or helpfulness of the other people in here, and your doing so in no manner validates your other expressed ideas to me. Lol.

I am just flabberghasted by your rude and nasty remarks.

Does your mother know how you talk to people? Is she proud?

No, you are not wrong about the healing. As i said, God heals whom He chooses.

I donnot cling to this mortal life and fear death as much as most folks do. If God wants to take me now, I am ready to go.

But i would never give up on God just because He didnt heal someone.

So?,,,,,is it God or preachers that you are mad at?

John

 

[Heavenly Pilgrim]

JoReba: Exactly what do you need to have faith in?

HP: I need to have faith in God to keep me from sin.

 

[DHK]

You are confusing, as do most Church Pewsitters, the difference between faith and obedience. And, as well, you are "Chatting!!" about other Churchy sounding topics as if they relate to faith.

Can you tell us what you need to have by faith in your mind in order to obey God?

1. If you never had faith you aren't saved.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2. If you don't increase in faith you haven't been reading God's Word.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

3. Without faith you lack one of the fruits of the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

4. Without faith the armor of God is weakened.
Ephesians 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

5. Without faith you cannot please God.
Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

6. Without faith you are not saved. Have you faith?

 

[DHK]

What go those Patriarchs have to do with you? Do you replicate their faith ... ? If you cite their faith yet do not replicate their faith, then you are not being faithful, and are powerless.

Go back to the first couple of pages and remind yourself of the OP and the conversation that immediately followed. Your original question was, "With all that we have today why is faith even necessary?"

My answer was, for the Christian faith is necessary to walk a walk of faith, to live a life of obedience. For example in carrying out the Great Commission one needs faith.

Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere, which was a false statement. So I gave a post that proved that the Apostles went everywhere preaching the Word and all were martyred in the end for doing so.

What do these men have to do with you. They were men of faith. They demonstrated their faith in their walk with Christ. They faced persecution and were not afraid to. They were martyred for their faith, for the faith that they lived by.

Are you, like them, willing to live a life of faith?

 

[Moriah]

Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere, which was a false statement. So I gave a post that proved that the Apostles went everywhere preaching the Word and all were martyred in the end for doing so.

I NEVER said that. You must know that you would have to be insane to believe I said that. What makes you say such lies? What makes you say such a lie?

 

[Heavenly Pilgrim]

Who was that that chastised others for not quoting him? Did not the same person then accuse those that fail to quote the other directly as liars, as I recall? Can anyone refresh my memory as to those recent remarks? Thanks.

 

[DHK]

The Apostles did not go anywhere anytime. Jesus had warned the Apostles not to go to some places because those not accepting the message would prosecute or kill them.

This is what you said Moriah.

 

[Moriah]

This is what you said Moriah.

You do not affect me, DHK. I answer to God.

 

[DHK]

You do not affect me, DHK. I answer to God.

In post #125 you accused me of lying. I didn't. I provided the proof for. Now you should apologize.

 

[Moriah]

In post #125 you accused me of lying. I didn't. I provided the proof for. Now you should apologize.

You do lie. You falsely call me a liar that makes you a liar.

DHK’s misquote:
Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere, which was a false statement.
My actual statement:
The Apostles did not go anywhere anytime. Jesus had warned the Apostles not to go to some places because those not accepting the message would prosecute or kill them.
DHK,
Are you incapable of seeing the truth? You said I said, “The Apostles never went anywhere.” Do you think you are funny? You do not find nothing wrong with saying the Apostles never went anywhere.
Move on now.

 

[DHK]

You do lie. You falsely call me a liar that makes you a liar.

DHK’s misquote:
Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere, which was a false statement.
My actual statement:
The Apostles did not go anywhere anytime. Jesus had warned the Apostles not to go to some places because those not accepting the message would prosecute or kill them.
DHK,
Are you incapable of seeing the truth? You said I said, “The Apostles never went anywhere.” Do you think you are funny? You do not find nothing wrong with saying the Apostles never went anywhere.
Move on now.

Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere,

My actual statement:
The Apostles did not go anywhere......
--Quoting from memory I'd say the quote was pretty accurate.

 

[Moriah]

Moriah interrupted then and said that the Apostles never went anywhere,

My actual statement:
The Apostles did not go anywhere......
--Quoting from memory I'd say the quote was pretty accurate.

Give it up. It is soundless to try to make anyone believe anyone believes the Apostles did not go anywhere.
I am finished speaking to you about this. It is clear you are just speaking folly.

 

[DHK]

I am finished speaking to you about this.

Fine, here is the OP

Given all of the above, why would such a powerfully enabled and well informed Believer need Faith today for much of anything? Is there anything which the above list has omitted or isthere any part of our lives which is neglected by God's omnipotent supply?

 

[annsni]

Millions of Believers over time have prayed and anointed with oil their morbidly sick and dying family and other loved ones with no effect, and with no healing.

Faith does not work for the vast majority of sick Believers as you have tried to say it does. Please stop misrepresenting God's Word.

I see the poster is now gone which I applaud the mods for doing but I will still answer this response to me.

Yes, believers have died and we were prepared to lose my daughter as well - and praise God anyway. Whether my daughter lived or died would not have made a difference - God is still God and He is still on the throne.

Faith doesn't heal if that is what you are thinking by saying that "faith doesn't work". Faith is the utter trusting in what we cannot see, knowing that all is in God's hand. If my daughter died, praise God for fulfilling His plan in our lives. That He healed her, we praise Him as well.

I know we are not to question the salvation of another but I do have to ask how an I dwelt believer could even question why we would need faith. It makes me wonder who the poster is and what the state of their heart is. I do pray that they find truth.

 

[DHK]

I know we are not to question the salvation of another but I do have to ask how an I dwelt believer could even question why we would need faith. It makes me wonder who the poster is and what the state of their heart is. I do pray that they find truth.

Yes, we all need faith.
The unsaved needs faith to be saved; to put his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. We are justified by faith.

The saved need to walk by faith. There is no other life for the Christian than a walk of faith.

 

[DaChaser1]

Yes, we all need faith.
The unsaved needs faith to be saved; to put his faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. We are justified by faith.

The saved need to walk by faith. There is no other life for the Christian than a walk of faith.

doctrine established by 2-3 witnesses, so see Romans 1:17/Habakkuk 2:4!