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What the occultists think of the church

utilyan

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Satan is very active amoing false religions and churches, as they deny the true Gospel of Jesus Christ!
Yes he tells them their problem is some other religion and church instead of taking responsibility.

Satan Teaches unconditional hatred of people and convinces people that God serves Satan spreading hate for no reason.
 

Yeshua1

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Yes he tells them their problem is some other religion and church instead of taking responsibility.

Satan Teaches unconditional hatred of people and convinces people that God serves Satan spreading hate for no reason.
Are you saying that is what we Calvinists are doing?
 

church mouse guy

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Pope John Paul II did many strange things in the last years of his life.

Pope Francis is convening the Amazon Synod in a few days and he will dwell on what Christians have to learn from savage heathen on spirituality. All that should be New Age deluxe. He wants a married priesthood, ordination of women, and acceptance of sodomy as normal. Of course, he agrees that climate change has put us on the verge of mass extinction in ten years and he advocates open borders for the West and thinks that communism is better than capitalism.

Cultural marxism and New Age thinking are also invading Protestantism. You won't find any kindness or cordiality from Russell Moore.
 

Yeshua1

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Pope John Paul II did many strange things in the last years of his life.

Pope Francis is convening the Amazon Synod in a few days and he will dwell on what Christians have to learn from savage heathen on spirituality. All that should be New Age deluxe. He wants a married priesthood, ordination of women, and acceptance of sodomy as normal. Of course, he agrees that climate change has put us on the verge of mass extinction in ten years and he advocates open borders for the West and thinks that communism is better than capitalism.

Cultural marxism and New Age thinking are also invading Protestantism. You won't find any kindness or cordiality from Russell Moore.
The current Pope is totally apostate in his theology!
 

church mouse guy

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Indianapolis is an international center for the occult due to Camp Chesterfield, just inside an adjoining county. It dates from the 19th century and also has Jesus in their pantheon of gods. During the Reagan years when the economy began to recover from the high inflation, high unemployment, and high interest rates of the Carter years, the practitioners of the occult were very unhappy as their retail hocus pocus fortune telling was ignored and their general income fell. Camp Chesterfield grew the most after World War I when so many soldiers died in Europe and were buried there. Families went to seances and there is evidence that Camp Chesterfield had real demonic activity. The occult frightens me and I have never wanted to go to Camp Chesterfield even in the daylight. Nor have I wanted to enter the occult bookstores in Indianapolis. One prominent occultist started telling me about the stars, etc., and I told her in the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth, which made her very angry right away. I had another psychic friend who had correctly predicted the death of her classmate when they were both in high school. She tolerated me but I was never able to change her mind about anything.

Indianapolis was also the starting place for Jim Jones, although very few would ever admit knowing anything about him. I knew one guy who was a gospel singer and he had a relative who worked for Jim Jones as a janitor. Because of his singing ability as a teenager, he said that Jim Jones took him to meet Father Devine, as Jones was trying to merge the two cults. When Jones moved to California, his relative stayed behind because the relative did not know how to read and write and did not want to move so far away.

The Amazon Synod starting soon in the Vatican is practically an occult instrument as Vatican insiders are saying that Christians can learn spirituality from heathen savages living in South American jungles with little or no contact with civilization. Also, Pope Francis mistakenly said that God willed the variety of religions in the world. It is really more politics than anything else but it is silly theology and is being played by the occult to a degree.

I think words are meaningless to the occult. I am not skilled at talking with them. They have an old mansion for a meeting place just north of downtown Indianapolis, where many other sketchy groups are located. I knew one lady who worked for the Holy Order of Mans (now defunct) for many years in Indianapolis. She was very generous to me and told me that people from the Holy Order of Mans moved into Joy of All Who Sorrow Eastern Orthodox Church that was like the New Age to me but is also just north of downtown Indy in an upscale area of old mansions. The Holy Order of Mans dressed like Catholic clergy and fooled many people. They had a large dormitory in an old house and ran two restaurants and a bakery. When Jones caused Jonestown, it put a spot light on the Holy Order of Mans and caused them to close down and disband.

I also had a friend who donated a lot of money to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh took a lot of transients to Oregon to try to take over a county there. Once there, they wanted out and were so addicted as to be useless. He let them out but charities had to buy them bus tickets back to their homes. Some from Indianapolis went there.
 

Yeshua1

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Indianapolis is an international center for the occult due to Camp Chesterfield, just inside an adjoining county. It dates from the 19th century and also has Jesus in their pantheon of gods. During the Reagan years when the economy began to recover from the high inflation, high unemployment, and high interest rates of the Carter years, the practitioners of the occult were very unhappy as their retail hocus pocus fortune telling was ignored and their general income fell. Camp Chesterfield grew the most after World War I when so many soldiers died in Europe and were buried there. Families went to seances and there is evidence that Camp Chesterfield had real demonic activity. The occult frightens me and I have never wanted to go to Camp Chesterfield even in the daylight. Nor have I wanted to enter the occult bookstores in Indianapolis. One prominent occultist started telling me about the stars, etc., and I told her in the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth, which made her very angry right away. I had another psychic friend who had correctly predicted the death of her classmate when they were both in high school. She tolerated me but I was never able to change her mind about anything.

Indianapolis was also the starting place for Jim Jones, although very few would ever admit knowing anything about him. I knew one guy who was a gospel singer and he had a relative who worked for Jim Jones as a janitor. Because of his singing ability as a teenager, he said that Jim Jones took him to meet Father Devine, as Jones was trying to merge the two cults. When Jones moved to California, his relative stayed behind because the relative did not know how to read and write and did not want to move so far away.

The Amazon Synod starting soon in the Vatican is practically an occult instrument as Vatican insiders are saying that Christians can learn spirituality from heathen savages living in South American jungles with little or no contact with civilization. Also, Pope Francis mistakenly said that God willed the variety of religions in the world. It is really more politics than anything else but it is silly theology and is being played by the occult to a degree.

I think words are meaningless to the occult. I am not skilled at talking with them. They have an old mansion for a meeting place just north of downtown Indianapolis, where many other sketchy groups are located. I knew one lady who worked for the Holy Order of Mans (now defunct) for many years in Indianapolis. She was very generous to me and told me that people from the Holy Order of Mans moved into Joy of All Who Sorrow Eastern Orthodox Church that was like the New Age to me but is also just north of downtown Indy in an upscale area of old mansions. The Holy Order of Mans dressed like Catholic clergy and fooled many people. They had a large dormitory in an old house and ran two restaurants and a bakery. When Jones caused Jonestown, it put a spot light on the Holy Order of Mans and caused them to close down and disband.

I also had a friend who donated a lot of money to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh took a lot of transients to Oregon to try to take over a county there. Once there, they wanted out and were so addicted as to be useless. He let them out but charities had to buy them bus tickets back to their homes. Some from Indianapolis went there.
satan has had a field day with occultic nonsense trying to get into the church, as seen by Momonism, Sda, new age, word of faith movements!
 

utilyan

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Are you saying that is what we Calvinists are doing?

Everyone does that yeshua, Thats part of the problem.

The Devil convinces a person that the source of all their problem is SOMEONE ELSE, That when someone else does evil its because they are in the service and prefer the devil.

But we we ourselves do something wrong we like to excuse ourselves for minor backsliding.

Only we are truly loyal to God and when we sin it s minor goof, but when everyone else is evil because they don't share my belief, and when they sin its full intention of serving evil.
 

Yeshua1

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Everyone does that yeshua, Thats part of the problem.

The Devil convinces a person that the source of all their problem is SOMEONE ELSE, That when someone else does evil its because they are in the service and prefer the devil.

But we we ourselves do something wrong we like to excuse ourselves for minor backsliding.

Only we are truly loyal to God and when we sin it s minor goof, but when everyone else is evil because they don't share my belief, and when they sin its full intention of serving evil.
When those teaching so called truths, such as Rome or Mormons or Sda though, distort and misteach the scriptures is wrong!
 

Shoostie

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Pope John Paul II did many strange things in the last years of his life.

Pope Francis is convening the Amazon Synod in a few days and he will dwell on what Christians have to learn from savage heathen on spirituality. All that should be New Age deluxe. He wants a married priesthood, ordination of women, and acceptance of sodomy as normal

South America has lots of Catholics, but few priests (and, parishes without priests mostly have women leading). Allowing married priests would quickly end the priest shortage. But, Francis insists this isn't on the table. I'd think Francis would have a sore eye from all the winking he does when he pretends to not want to change Catholic doctrine and traditions on such things as married priests, ordaining women, and sodomy.

It seems Francis wants to give his blessing to mixing paganism with Catholicism, in the Amazon Synod. And, of course, Francis wants to encourage all things things that help make third-world countries third-world.
 

church mouse guy

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South America has lots of Catholics, but few priests (and, parishes without priests mostly have women leading). Allowing married priests would quickly end the priest shortage. But, Francis insists this isn't on the table. I'd think Francis would have a sore eye from all the winking he does when he pretends to not want to change Catholic doctrine and traditions on such things as married priests, ordaining women, and sodomy.

It seems Francis wants to give his blessing to mixing paganism with Catholicism, in the Amazon Synod. And, of course, Francis wants to encourage all things things that help make third-world countries third-world.

Very well said! I sympathize with the traditionalists in the RCC because Baptist are facing some of the same issues of globalism and environmentalism and acceptance of homosexuality from J.D.Greear and Russell Moore. Baptists went over the cliff with the liberal theology of Greear and ramped up their politicking to the maximum with Moore. Rick Warren said that if you like Jesus, you will like Pope Francis. He should have said that if you like Mussolini and Juan Peron, you will like the Italian Jorge Bergoglio.

You said it very well! Thank you!
 
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