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What will be the cause of the great tribulation?

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
There isn't anything talked about in the Bible about any future 'tribulation', other than that which concerns His people and Jesus' churches throughout The New Testament Era of The Church Age,
Actually, it is your demonic interpretation that has nothing to do with the Bible, there is a lot of BIBLICAL prophecy talking about the tribulation in the END of the times, by the prophets in the OT,
and by JESUS in His Gospel, Gospel of GOD's Kingdom->Revelation 11:15-18 combined with 1Corintians 15:24-28&51-55, and Philippians 3:30-21,
-> and by the Apostles,
and by the true Church, the body of Christ JESUS through out the last 2000 years->Hebrews 1:1-4 and 8, ->
and AS IS WRITTEN in Acts 14:22, "
we MUST through much tribulation enter into the Kingdom of GOD->Revelaton 11:15-18 combined with Daniel 2:43-45 and 7:9-10 and 22; 26-27.

Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective. The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD, neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
This was a Prophetic warning to the Jews about the tribulation which took place when the Temple was destroyed, in A.D. 70.

This refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, also.

This is also speaking of the Romans attacking Jerusalem in A.D. 70, with Jesus using them to bring Wrath upon the ones who crucified Him.

I know you may not care to hear this kind of talk, but said;

All of the misunderstanding begins in Revelation 20:4 where nothing is mentioned about Jesus Reigning on Earth for a thousand years and the galactic volume of meaningless drivel man has fabricated from that in their flesh, in its entirety, out of thin air.
No, what you said is a false testimony, of course:->Matthew 15:11and 18-19.->The disciples privately they asked unto my Lord JESUS, saying:-> Matthew 24:3: -> Tell us, what shall be the sign of THY COMING, and of the END of the WORLD->the current Devil's WORLD? JESUS listed several terrible EVENTS for this CURRENT TIME- firstly as is written in Matthew 24:4-14, take a look.

And still about the END of the current Devil's world, the EVENT that my Lord also said upon the Mount of Olives, it is written in Matthew 24:15-25. Be prepared or else get ready. What my Lord JESUS revealed to the disciples about the END of this current Devil's world, as above cited, it has nothing to do with your A.D 70, your world will be DESTROYED as a whole from now on, understand? 1Corinthians 15:24-28 and 51-55 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16 and REvelation 11:15-18.


Revelation 21:8;-> But the unbelieving, and all liars, and fearful, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.->Brimstone? Isaiah 30:33, take a look).
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
There isn't anything talked about in the Bible about any future 'tribulation', other than that which concerns His people and Jesus' churches throughout The New Testament Era of The Church Age,
Everything you described in your objection to what I said is what I said.


-> and by the Apostles,
and by the true Church, the body of Christ JESUS through out the last 2000 years->Hebrews 1:1-4 and 8, ->
and AS IS WRITTEN in Acts 14:22, "


what shall be the sign of THY COMING, and of the END of the WORLD-
These are two questions and Jesus answers them one at a time, after they asked, "Tell us, when shall these things be?",
referring to the kind of destruction that Jesus had just talked about, where the Bible says
"his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

lot of BIBLICAL prophecy talking about the tribulation in the END of the times, by the prophets in the OT,
and by JESUS in His Gospel, Gospel of GOD's Kingdom->Revelation 11:15-18 combined with 1Corintians 15:24-28&51-55, and Philippians 3:30-21,
I know where you probably think and are dependent on the Old Testament Prophets,
which do speak mostly about 70 A.D, as far as any 'tribulation'.

Why do you think Jesus said;

2; "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you,
There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."


JESUS listed several terrible EVENTS for this CURRENT TIME-
No, He didn't say one word about "several terrible EVENTS for this CURRENT TIME.-"
Jesus was answering the Disciples' three questions, which you came frightenly close to nailing:
You were just looking at it from the way they would have understood it, back in those New Testament Era days,
when Jesus taught His Disciples there on The Mount of Olives.

The three questions the Disciples asked, were
First: "Tell us, when shall these things be?",
Second "and what shall be the sign of Thy coming",
then Third "and of the end of the world?"

First
, like you said, "Tell us, when shall these things be?"
firstly as is written in Matthew 24:4-14, take a look.
Jesus answered the Disciples' First question like this;

4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 "For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 "And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled:
for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 "All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 "And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

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Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
Secondly, Jesus answers their question, "and what shall be the sign of Thy coming", here like you said,
the EVENT that my Lord also said upon the Mount of Olives, it is written in Matthew 24:15-25. Be prepared or else get ready.
You have to pay attention when Jesus is speaking, because He purposely answered the question the Disciples thought they were asking, in a much different way. They wanted to know when Jesus' Triumphant Entrance into Jerusalem to take over as King would be.

Jesus didn't bother with their wrongful view of Jesus' Coming, as if He'd be a King taking over to destroy their enemies, the Ruling Government.

Instead, Jesus' answer really was talking about His Coming, using the Roman armies to take Vengeance against them in Providential Wrath.

That is why you have to pay attention when Jesus is speaking.
Tell us, what shall be the sign of THY COMING,
I'd say Matthew 24:26 thru 24:35; I can count on one hand the men that I know who understand these verses this way.
Probably some of the hardest verses that are in the Bible. The Interpretation has to harmonise with all of the picturesque imagery,
as well as boundaries such as the Parable of the Fig Tree and 34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." This Interpretation honors the context throughout, including;
"THAT GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED".

A.D. 70. The Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet.

26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, He is in the desert; go not forth: behold, He is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be.
(When the Roman Army descends on Jerusalem, in A.D. 70, they will move down upon them extremely quickly.)


28 "For wheresoever the carcase is (the Jews killed), there will the eagles (the Roman Army) be gathered together.

29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall be darkened,
(Governmental Rulers, in the figure that Joseph saw in his dream about his family, i.e., those in authority)
and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken (same with these):

30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven (see below;
Besides His First Coming to Earth "He also Came in His vengeance on that nation, for their rejection and crucifixion Him,
as if they had seen Him Appear in Person in the heavens
:) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven (Old Testament figure) with power and great glory (same here).

"He shall appear, not in Person, but in the Power of His Wrath and Vengeance, on the Jewish nation which will be a full sign and proof of his being Come: for the sense is, that when the above calamities shall be upon the civil state of that people, and there will be such changes in their ecclesiastical state it will be as clear a point, that Christ is Come in the flesh, at His First Coming, and that He also Came in His vengeance on that nation, for their rejection and crucifixion Him, as if they had seen him appear in person in the heavens.

Although this is not another Coming in the flesh, or the Second Coming of Jesus returning to Earth. However, they had always been seeking a sign, and were continually asking one of Him; and now they will have a sign with a witness; as they had accordingly,
And then shall the tribes of the earth, or land, mourn...", etc., etc. from: Matthew 24 KJV

31 "And He shall send His angels (Jesus' Ministers during the Church Age) with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together His Elect (as the result of His Ministers Preaching the Gospel, around the World)
"from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
...

Then, their Third Question was about the End of the World; Matthew 24:36 thru 24:51.
37 "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39"And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be, etc., etc.
What my Lord JESUS revealed to the disciples about the END of this current Devil's world, as above cited, it has nothing to do with your A.D 70,
No it doesn't, but Jesus only discusses the END of this current World in Matthew 24:36 thru 24:51.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Everything you described in your objection to what I said is what I said.
No, you not. Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective. The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of GOD, neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
These are two questions and Jesus answers them one at a time, after they asked, "Tell us, when shall these things be?",
referring to the kind of destruction that Jesus had just talked about, where the Bible says
"his disciples "came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
lot of BIBLICAL prophecy talking about the tribulation in the END of the times, by the prophets in the OT,
I know where you probably think and are dependent on the Old Testament Prophets,
which do speak mostly about 70 A.D, as far as any 'tribulation'.
The two questions you are referring above have nothing to do with the greatness of the temple commented by the disciples before JESUS. Those questions are: 1) about the return of JESUS, and 2) about the END of the world, yeah, END of the currrent satanic world that GOD will destroy from now on with/in His wrath->Revelation 11:18.
When JESUS and His disciples left the den of thieves, the Temple in Jerusalem, the disciples did not ask Jesus any questions. The purpose of your spirit is to falsify Scripture and thus try to confuse readers. They simply "came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple". ->In this scenario, the One who asked the question was JESUS:-> See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
THIS PROPHECY OF JESUS fulfilled LITERALLY arount 40 years after His crucifixion.

Why do you think Jesus said;

2; "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you,
There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."


No, He didn't say one word about "several terrible EVENTS for this CURRENT TIME.-"
Yes, when JESUS left the den of thieves, He only talked with the disciples about the destruction of the Temple exclusively. It is you who has mixed the things as I commented above.

The three questions the Disciples asked, were
First: "Tell us, when shall these things be?",
Second "and what shall be the sign of Thy coming",
then Third "and of the end of the world?"

First, like you said, "Tell us, when shall these things be?"

Jesus answered the Disciples' First question like this;

4 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 "For many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 "And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled:
for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 "For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8 "All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 "Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 "And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 "And this Gospel of the Kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Jesus was answering the Disciples' three questions, which you came frightenly close to nailing: You were just looking at it from the way they would have understood it, back in those New Testament Era days,
when Jesus taught His Disciples there on The Mount of Olives.

con't
No, my main focus was/is to highlight the answer that JESUS gave unto His diciples and you quoted it above, and what JESUS said is still fulfilling LITERALLY in this current time, understand? By the way, His Word is from evelasting to everlasting.

cont.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Secondly, Jesus answers their question, "and what shall be the sign of Thy coming", here like you said,

You have to pay attention when Jesus is speaking, because He purposely answered the question the Disciples thought they were asking, in a much different way. They wanted to know when Jesus' Triumphant Entrance into Jerusalem to take over as King would be.

Jesus didn't bother with their wrongful view of Jesus' Coming, as if He'd be a King taking over to destroy their enemies, the Ruling Government.
It's you who is with your wrongful and devilish view of JESUS' coming, not the disciples of the Lord. The followers of JESUS knew correctly that JESUS's Coming would be in the last Day.-> John 11:23-24-> 23 Jesus saith unto Martha, Thy brother shall rise again. 24 Martha saith unto JESUS, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the LAST DAY.-> That is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, in fact the Lord's Day. And what i MUST say as a disciple of JESUS is that this Day just arrived. Actually, we are at the turn from the sixth to the seventh and last Day and there will be resurrection exactly in this current time in literal fulfillment of Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1 Thessalonians 4:16->JESUS's COMING->and Revelation 11:15-18.-> . Be prepared or else get ready, for without lamp and without oil you are lost for ever like the rebell current Israel->Matthew 23:29-33, take a look.
Instead, Jesus' answer really was talking about His Coming, using the Roman armies to take Vengeance against them in Providential Wrath.
That is why you have to pay attention when Jesus is speaking.
To understand what JESUS said it is necessary, first of all, to have the Spirit of Christ. What you said has nothing to do with what JESUS said to the disciples, what you have said here has to do with the spirit speaking in Genesis 3:1, and so on. The satanic Roman armies was not used by JESUS to take vengeance agaisnt the rebell Israel. By the way, the Coming of JESUS and His Vengeance is written in 2Thessalonians 1:7-12, as follow->:
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord JESUS shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,->(Luke 20:35-36)

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ:

9 Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His Power;

10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints(Daniel 7:22 and 26-27 combined with 1CORINTHIANS 6:2-3), and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. ->the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, this Day arrived.
I'd say Matthew 24:26 thru 24:35; I can count on one hand the men that I know who understand these verses this way.
Probably some of the hardest verses that are in the Bible. The Interpretation has to harmonise with all of the picturesque imagery,
as well as boundaries such as the Parable of the Fig Tree and 34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." This Interpretation honors the context throughout, including;
"THAT GENERATION SHALL NOT PASS, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED".

A.D. 70. The Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet.

26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, He is in the desert; go not forth: behold, He is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be.
(When the Roman Army descends on Jerusalem, in A.D. 70, they will move down upon them extremely quickly.)

28 "For wheresoever the carcase is (the Jews killed), there will the eagles (the Roman Army) be gathered together.

29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall be darkened,
(Governmental Rulers, in the figure that Joseph saw in his dream about his family, i.e., those in authority)
and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken (same with these):

30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven (see below;
Besides His First Coming to Earth "He also Came in His vengeance on that nation, for their rejection and crucifixion Him,
as if they had seen Him Appear in Person in the heavens:) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn,
and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven (Old Testament figure) with power and great glory (same here).

"He shall appear, not in Person, but in the Power of His Wrath and Vengeance, on the Jewish nation which will be a full sign and proof of his being Come: for the sense is, that when the above calamities shall be upon the civil state of that people, and there will be such changes in their ecclesiastical state it will be as clear a point, that Christ is Come in the flesh, at His First Coming, and that He also Came in His vengeance on that nation, for their rejection and crucifixion Him, as if they had seen him appear in person in the heavens.

Although this is not another Coming in the flesh, or the Second Coming of Jesus returning to Earth. However, they had always been seeking a sign, and were continually asking one of Him; and now they will have a sign with a witness; as they had accordingly,
And then shall the tribes of the earth, or land, mourn...", etc., etc. from: Matthew 24 KJV

31 "And He shall send His angels (Jesus' Ministers during the Church Age) with a great sound of a trumpet,
and they shall gather together His Elect (as the result of His Ministers Preaching the Gospel, around the World)
"from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
...

Then, their Third Question was about the End of the World; Matthew 24:36 thru 24:51.
37 "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage,
until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39"And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be, etc., etc.

No it doesn't, but Jesus only discusses the END of this current World in Matthew 24:36 thru 24:51.

MATTHEW 24:3-8 -
JESUS LISTED SEVERAL EVENTS ABOUT HIS COMING,AND ABOUT THE END OF THE CURRENT WORLD OF DEVIL-MATTHEW 24:3-8

3 And JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives and
the disciples came unto Him PRIVATELY, asking about two things:-->1- What shall be the sign of thy coming? 2- And of the END of the world?
4 JESUS answered the questions of the disciples and gave a LIST of signs unto them of the things that AT FIRST would happen before His coming. as follow:
(1) Take heed that no man deceive you;
(2) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (John 5:43-48 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, take a look); and shall DECEIVE many;
(3) And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, BUT THE END IS NOT YET;
(4) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
(5) and there shall be famines;
(6) and pestilences;
(7) and earthquakes, in divers places;
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

By the way , FOR NOW we are living exactly in this current period of time, the beginning of sorrow.

But JESUS continued prophesying and warning His people, saying: All these things are the beginning of sorrows, and all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.<--> In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATION PERIOD, AND JUST NOW THIS PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD is FULFILLING LITERALLY.
This is a perilous perilous time-> Matthew 24:9-14 combined with 2Timothy 3:1-5, take a look, be prepared or else Get ready. Very very terrible time, but the wrath of GOD MUST come and they will suffer everlasting perdition and destruction.
And the worst will still come after, in fulffillment of Matthew 24:15-25. Get ready.

ABOUT RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD
By the way, when will be the END of all things? It's easy to know by the Word of GOD:
1Corinthians 15:24-26 combined with Daniel 12:1-3 and 7-12 --> and 1 Thessalonians 4:14-16 combined with Revelation 11:15-18, among many other biblical references, mainly Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look.

GOD BLESS
Be careful or else get ready, because the worst is coming in literal fulfillment of the prophecies of JESUS. The testimony of JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy->Revelation 19:10 combined with Matthew 24:35, take a look.
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
The three questions the Disciples asked, were
First: "Tell us, when shall these things be?",
Second "and what shall be the sign of Thy coming",
then Third "and of the end of the world?"
Remarkable. You act like you think you know something and don't know a question from a statement. That's idiotic illiteracy.
Why do you think Jesus said;

2; "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you,
There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down."
You may not believe this but this is the context of what is being discussed between Jesus and His Disciples, in Matthew 24,
until Jesus answers their Third QUESTION about when 'the end of the world'.
There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down
Now that does make some sense. More sense than you know.
The two questions you are referring above have nothing to do with the greatness of the temple commented by the disciples before JESUS. Those questions are: 1) about the return of JESUS, and 2) about the END of the world, yeah, END of the currrent satanic world that GOD will destroy from now on with/in His wrath->Revelation 11:18.
The immediate context is "when shall these things be", which was to be the destruction of the Temple, that JESUS JUST TALKED ABOUT.
the disciples did not ask Jesus any questions.
Crazy. Simply Crazy.
In this scenario, the One who asked the question was JESUS:-> See ye not all these things?
I wonder if that was what He was talking about and continued to talk about when the Disciples asked Him about that very thing.
verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
And there it is again. The subject matter of Matthew 24 all the way down to,

35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

36 "But of that day and hour (WHEN "Heaven and earth shall pass away", from the previous verse)
knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be.
38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth Come."
No, you not. Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective.
Then, if no one knows the day or hour, what makes you think 'Jesus is just about ready to Come Back', to make a complete 7,000 years?

The saints of God were to be blessed for 1,000 generations. If a generation is 40 years, approximately, that's 40,000 years before His Return.

The year 40,2025. What's up? You know when Jesus is Coming Back? HOW QUAINT.


The two questions you are referring above have nothing to do with the greatness of the temple commented by the disciples before JESUS.
So, they jumped onto a Spaceship and Jesus lost His Mind to rattle off all this detailed stuff IN THE FIRST TWO-THIRDS OF MATTHEW 24;
A.) ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE'S SAYING THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN
B.) WHEN
He didn't KNOW "that day and hour" WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAPPEN
i.e., 36 WHEN "Heaven and earth shall pass away"????????

A.) Couldn't come before B.)


Those questions are: 1) about the return of JESUS,
Really? This year or the year 40,2025?


and 2) about the END of the world, yeah, END of the currrent satanic world that GOD will destroy from now on with/in His wrath->Revelation 11:18.
Reference new thread: The Seven Progressive Judgments in Revelation EACH REVEALS & TEACHES DEEPER TRUTHS CONCERNING THE ONE FINAL JUDGMENT.
When JESUS and His disciples left the den of thieves, the Temple in Jerusalem, the disciples did not ask Jesus any questions.
What about that.
The purpose of your spirit is to falsify Scripture and thus try to confuse readers.
Is that right?
They simply "came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple".
Oh. And the Moon is a part of the Sun.
Yes, when JESUS left the den of thieves, He only talked with the disciples about the destruction of the Temple exclusively. It is you who has mixed the things as I commented above.
Wow.
No, my main focus was/is to highlight the answer that JESUS gave unto His diciples and you quoted it above, and what JESUS said is still fulfilling LITERALLY in this current time, understand?
This is exactly what you believe, which is nothing, wadded up into gobbledegook noman's land.

It doesn't say anything. I wonder if you are afraid of saying what you believe.

Remember, there isn't anything to believe about some 'Millennium' scheme,
since no scripture teaches anything about Jesus Reigning on Earth for 1,000 years.

All thinking regarding Pre or Post-Millennial ideas are purely man-made flesh, because God eliminated them,
by there being no reference to them anywhere in the Bible. Nothing. Anywhere.

They are both worthless wastes of time and obviously NOT OF GOD, OR HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THEM IN THE BIBLE.

And PRETREISM is recognized as heresy, since it teaches that Jesus Came Back at His Second Coming in Jerusalem, in A.D. 70. Wrong.
 
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Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
That is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium
What makes you think that? Nothing? Your imagination? Or, just blatantly ADDING TO THE SCRIPTURE?
It's you who is with your wrongful and devilish view of JESUS' coming
Jesus made no mention of His Second Coming in The Olivet Discourse until He said that He was making mention of His Second Coming, when He answered the Disciples' question about "The End of the World" in Matthew 24:35-51. You're coming up with Jesus having talked about anything to do with The End Times prior to that in Matthew 24, only in your head. When He said, "the end is not yet", what end do you hurriedly assume in a knee-jerk reaction, with no consideration of resolving that with;

"Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".

That Generation saw all those 'events' you say Jesus talked about, as if they referred to today?

MATTHEW 24:3-8 -
JESUS LISTED SEVERAL EVENTS ABOUT HIS COMING,AND ABOUT THE END OF THE CURRENT WORLD OF DEVIL-MATTHEW 24:3-8

3 And JESUS sat upon the mount of Olives and
the disciples came unto Him PRIVATELY, asking about two things:-->1- What shall be the sign of thy coming? 2- And of the END of the world?
4 JESUS answered the questions of the disciples and gave a LIST of signs unto them of the things that AT FIRST would happen before His coming. as follow:
(1) Take heed that no man deceive you;
(2) For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (John 5:43-48 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, take a look); and shall DECEIVE many;
(3) And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, BUT THE END IS NOT YET;
(4) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom;
(5) and there shall be famines;
(6) and pestilences;
(7) and earthquakes, in divers places;
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

They must have had a lot longer lives than Methuselah. Like that generation must be 2000 something years old.

Jesus said 35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away".

Jesus has started talking about when the Earth will pass away for the first time in this Discourse, here,
then clearly makes a transition from His previous narrative, by using the word,
"but";


36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
The followers of JESUS knew correctly that JESUS's Coming would be in the last Day.
Yes, and they were being warned about the Desolation of Abomination that was going to come upon the Jews, and Jerusalem, and their Temple, WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THE LORD GOD OF THE UNIVERSE SAID IT WOULD,
"Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".

Even the Devil can't twist that.


Remember, "the buildings of the temple" is the subject matter at hand, about which Jesus elaborates on in the following verses, after assuring them, 2 "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down". What Jesus said He is talking about is what He is talking about, not what you assume and interject into the beginning of that chapter for no reason other than you want to, to pretend Revelation 20:4 has the word "Earth" in it, I gather.

But the Devil can't twist that either. The word
"Earth" is not in Revelation 20:4.
By the way, the Coming of JESUS and His Vengeance is written in 2Thessalonians 1:7-12, as follow->:
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord JESUS shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,->(Luke 20:35-36)

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ:

9 Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His Power;

10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints
What does that have to do with any of the information Jesus shared about the Romans' Siege of Jerusalem, when they tore all the stones of the Temple down, because they'd heard there was Gold hidden in them? That took place as Jesus described.
admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. ->the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, this Day arrived.
How do you know the seventh "day" is the last Day. Who's ever talked about a seventh Day having to do with anything related to the End Times? What are you cooking up in your warped Escatological Laboratory, now?

By the way , FOR NOW we are living exactly in this current period of time, the beginning of sorrow.
How do you think you know something like that? It waited 2000 years to take place? And you know this because you know when the Lord is Coming Back, even after He in Humanity told the Disciples that He didn't? You know something Jesus said He didn't know?
all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.
All those things had to do with the time prior to the END. THE END OF THE TEMPLE AND EVEN JEWISH SACRIFICES!!!!!!
In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATION PERIOD, AND JUST NOW THIS PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD is FULFILLING LITERALLY.
Pre-what? Period?
Very very terrible time, but the wrath of GOD MUST come and they will suffer everlasting perdition and destruction.
And the worst will still come after, in fulffillment of Matthew 24:15-25. Get ready.
Yeah, Jesus was telling them that THEY BETTER BE READY TO HEAD OUT OF TOWN.

What does any of this have to do with Jesus' Second Coming to Earth? "stand in the holy place", 16 "Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 "Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 "And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

What in the World does this, with things which could "deceive the very Elect" have to do with Jesus Second Coming?

23 "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
 

Oseas3

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Remarkable. You act like you think you know something and don't know a question from a statement. That's idiotic illiteracy.
The three questions are written in the Scriptures. Your opinion is good for nothing. You are saying nothing, understand? By the way, my Lord JESUS left very very clear, saying: ->Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. For by thy words thou shall be justified, and by thy words thou shall be condemned. Now, now, this Day, the seventh and last Day, arrived. Be prepared or else get ready.
You may not believe this but this is the context of what is being discussed between Jesus and His Disciples, in Matthew 24,
I am not believe what your spirit says, of course, because what is written in Matthew 24:1-2 specifically, it was said as soon JESUS and His disciples left the den of the thieves, the Temple of Jerusalem, understand? The destruction that JESUS revealed to the disciples in Matthew 24:1-2, it is strictly about the Temple, the den of thieves, understand? By the way, it has nothing to do with Mount Olives, the distance between the Temple and the Mount of Olives is about a Sabbath day's walk-Acts 1:12, or about 6 km, understand? You're wrong, as you've always been.
until Jesus answers their Third QUESTION about when 'the end of the world'.
The point here is that JESUS was far from the Temple, that is, one Sabbath day away from the Temple, When JESUS answers "their Third QUESTION", He was on Mount Olives, JESUS was not in front of the Temple. The END of the world has nothing to do with the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD as you have said. But the spirit that speaks through you moves your mind into darkness to confuse and create confusion—Genesis 3:1. Such a spirit will never move in the Light of JESUS. JESUS left very clear, saying:->"I am the Light of the world(like the Sun, understand?): he that followeth Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life". It's it. You and anyone who thinks like you are completely wrong.
Now that does make some sense. More sense than you know.
The immediate context is "when shall these things be", which was to be the destruction of the Temple, that JESUS JUST TALKED ABOUT.
No, you're saying this wrongly. Jesus didn't say that at all. To understand what Jesus said, you must first have the Spirit of Christ, understand? The destruction Jesus revealed to the disciples in Matthew 24:1-2 is strictly related to the Temple, the den of thieves, understand? It has nothing to do with the END of the WORLD, absolutely. You and anyone who thinks like you are completely wrong.
Crazy. Simply Crazy.
In Matthew 24:1-2, the disciples came to Him for to simply shew Him the buildings of the Temple. Yeah, simply and strictly to shew Him the buildings of the Temple. No questions. You yourself are possessed by the spirit of confusion.
I wonder if that was what He was talking about and continued to talk about when the Disciples asked Him about that very thing.
No, in Matthew 24:1-2, the disciples came to Him for to simply shew Him the buildings of the Temple. Yeah, to shew Him simply and strictly the buildings of the Temple. No questions. You yourself are possessed by the spirit of confusion.
And there it is again. The subject matter of Matthew 24 all the way down to,

35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
Yes, and the prophecy of JESUS about destruction of the Temple, the den of thieves, it fulfilled LITERALLY around 40 years after His ascension. Yeah, heaven and earth shall pass away (heaven? Ephesians 1:3-10, and so on, combined with 2Peter 3:7, take a look), but His words shall not pass away.->JESUS left very clear, saying: -> All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
36 "But of that day and hour (WHEN "Heaven and earth shall pass away", from the previous verse)
knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the Coming of the Son of man be.
38 "For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 "And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 "Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

42 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth Come."
It is evident that it is impossible to know the hour or day of my Lord's coming. Not even JESUS could have known this 2,000 years ago, that is, the day 1353. It was/ is impossible to know when this day 1353 will be or when it will fall on the Calendar. GOD's strategy was/is a matter of wisdom. Perhaps by the middle of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27, we will have a clue, you know? Anyway,"Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days."->Daniel 12:12-> Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1335. Hallelujaaah!!!,
Then, if no one knows the day or hour, what makes you think 'Jesus is just about ready to Come Back', to make a complete 7,000 years?
Now, now, it is Luke 21:25-28 AND 31.
The saints of God were to be blessed for 1,000 generations. If a generation is 40 years, approximately, that's 40,000 years before His Return.
The year 40,2025. What's up? You know when Jesus is Coming Back? HOW QUAINT.
Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective.
What does the Word of GOD say?-> Daniel 12:10-11
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the ABOMINTION that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
And JESUS said: Matthew 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven(LUKE 21:35, TAKE A LOOK), and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:-> the POWERS of 1st and 2nd HEAVENS, the THIRD HEAVEN->(2Corinthians 12:2-4, take a look) will be established from now on.
30 And then shall appear the SIGN of the Son of man in heaven:(Ephesians 1:3-10 and so on) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with Power and great Glory.
31 And He shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
The two questions you are referring above have nothing to do with the greatness of the temple commented by the disciples before JESUS.
So, they jumped onto a Spaceship and Jesus lost His Mind to rattle off all this detailed stuff IN THE FIRST TWO-THIRDS OF MATTHEW 24;
A.) ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE'S SAYING THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN
B.) WHEN
He didn't KNOW "that day and hour" WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAPPEN
i.e., 36 WHEN "Heaven and earth shall pass away"????????

A.) Couldn't come before B.)


Those questions are: 1) about the return of JESUS,
Really? This year or the year 40,2025?


and 2) about the END of the world, yeah, END of the currrent satanic world that GOD will destroy from now on with/in His wrath->Revelation 11:18.
Reference new thread: The Seven Progressive Judgments in Revelation EACH REVEALS & TEACHES DEEPER TRUTHS CONCERNING THE ONE FINAL JUDGMENT.
When JESUS and His disciples left the den of thieves, the Temple in Jerusalem, the disciples did not ask Jesus any questions.
What about that.
The purpose of your spirit is to falsify Scripture and thus try to confuse readers.
Is that right?
They simply "came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple".
Oh. And the Moon is a part of the Sun.
Yes, when JESUS left the den of thieves, He only talked with the disciples about the destruction of the Temple exclusively. It is you who has mixed the things as I commented above.
Wow.
No, my main focus was/is to highlight the answer that JESUS gave unto His diciples and you quoted it above, and what JESUS said is still fulfilling LITERALLY in this current time, understand?
This is exactly what you believe, which is nothing, wadded up into gobbledegook noman's land.

It doesn't say anything. I wonder if you are afraid of saying what you believe.

Remember, there isn't anything to believe about some 'Millennium' scheme,
since no scripture teaches anything about Jesus Reigning on Earth for 1,000 years.

All thinking regarding Pre or Post-Millennial ideas are purely man-made flesh, because God eliminated them,
by there being no reference to them anywhere in the Bible. Nothing. Anywhere.

They are both worthless wastes of time and obviously NOT OF GOD, OR HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THEM IN THE BIBLE.

And PRETREISM is recognized as heresy, since it teaches that Jesus Came Back at His Second Coming in Jerusalem, in A.D. 70. Wrong.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^




What makes you think that? Nothing? Your imagination? Or, just blatantly ADDING TO THE SCRIPTURE?

Jesus made no mention of His Second Coming in The Olivet Discourse until He said that He was making mention of His Second Coming, when He answered the Disciples' question about "The End of the World" in Matthew 24:35-51. You're coming up with Jesus having talked about anything to do with The End Times prior to that in Matthew 24, only in your head. When He said, "the end is not yet", what end do you hurriedly assume in a knee-jerk reaction, with no consideration of resolving that with;

"Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".

That Generation saw all those 'events' you say Jesus talked about, as if they referred to today?


They must have had a lot longer lives than Methuselah. Like that generation must be 2000 something years old.

Jesus said 35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away".

Jesus has started talking about when the Earth will pass away for the first time in this Discourse, here,
then clearly makes a transition from His previous narrative, by using the word,
"but";


36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."

Yes, and they were being warned about the Desolation of Abomination that was going to come upon the Jews, and Jerusalem, and their Temple, WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THE LORD GOD OF THE UNIVERSE SAID IT WOULD,
"Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".

Even the Devil can't twist that.


Remember, "the buildings of the temple" is the subject matter at hand, about which Jesus elaborates on in the following verses, after assuring them, 2 "And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down". What Jesus said He is talking about is what He is talking about, not what you assume and interject into the beginning of that chapter for no reason other than you want to, to pretend Revelation 20:4 has the word "Earth" in it, I gather.

But the Devil can't twist that either. The word
"Earth" is not in Revelation 20:4.

What does that have to do with any of the information Jesus shared about the Romans' Siege of Jerusalem, when they tore all the stones of the Temple down, because they'd heard there was Gold hidden in them? That took place as Jesus described.

How do you know the seventh "day" is the last Day. Who's ever talked about a seventh Day having to do with anything related to the End Times? What are you cooking up in your warped Escatological Laboratory, now?


How do you think you know something like that? It waited 2000 years to take place? And you know this because you know when the Lord is Coming Back, even after He in Humanity told the Disciples that He didn't? You know something Jesus said He didn't know?

All those things had to do with the time prior to the END. THE END OF THE TEMPLE AND EVEN JEWISH SACRIFICES!!!!!!

Pre-what? Period?

Yeah, Jesus was telling them that THEY BETTER BE READY TO HEAD OUT OF TOWN.

What does any of this have to do with Jesus' Second Coming to Earth? "stand in the holy place", 16 "Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 "Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 "And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

What in the World does this, with things which could "deceive the very Elect" have to do with Jesus Second Coming?

23 "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."

Your satanic verbiage above as a possessed reveals you are among the wickeds as was prophesied in Daniel 12:10, "the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."
And JESUS said: Matthew 24:10-13
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

And Paul Apostle said: Romans 3:13-18
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
The two questions you are referring above have nothing to do with the greatness of the temple commented by the disciples before JESUS.
So, they jumped onto a Spaceship and Jesus lost His Mind to rattle off all this detailed stuff IN THE FIRST TWO-THIRDS OF MATTHEW 24;
A.) ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE'S SAYING THAT ARE GOING TO HAPPEN
B.) WHEN
He didn't KNOW "that day and hour" WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAPPEN
i.e., 36 WHEN "Heaven and earth shall pass away"????????
A.) Couldn't come before B.)

Those questions are: 1) about the return of JESUS,
Really? This year or the year 40,2025?
and 2) about the END of the world, yeah, END of the currrent satanic world that GOD will destroy from now on with/in His wrath->Revelation 11:18.
When JESUS and His disciples left the den of thieves, the Temple in Jerusalem, the disciples did not ask Jesus any questions.
What about that.
The purpose of your spirit is to falsify Scripture and thus try to confuse readers.
Is that right?
They simply "came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple".
Oh. And the Moon is a part of the Sun.
Yes, when JESUS left the den of thieves, He only talked with the disciples about the destruction of the Temple exclusively. It is you who has mixed the things as I commented above.
Wow.
No, my main focus was/is to highlight the answer that JESUS gave unto His diciples and you quoted it above, and what JESUS said is still fulfilling LITERALLY in this current time, understand?
This is exactly what you believe, which is nothing, wadded up into gobbledegook noman's land.

It doesn't say anything. I wonder if you are afraid of saying what you believe.

Remember, there isn't anything to believe about some 'Millennium' scheme,
since no scripture teaches anything about Jesus Reigning on Earth for 1,000 years.

All thinking regarding Pre or Post-Millennial ideas are purely man-made flesh, because God eliminated them,
by there being no reference to them anywhere in the Bible. Nothing. Anywhere.

They are both worthless wastes of time and obviously NOT OF GOD, OR HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT THEM IN THE BIBLE.

And PRETREISM is recognized as heresy, since it teaches that Jesus Came Back at His Second Coming in Jerusalem, in A.D. 70. Wrong.
  • That is the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium
    What makes you think that? Nothing? Your imagination? Or, just blatantly ADDING TO THE SCRIPTURE?
    It's you who is with your wrongful and devilish view of JESUS' coming
    Jesus made no mention of His Second Coming in The Olivet Discourse until He said that He was making mention of His Second Coming, when He answered the Disciples' question about "The End of the World" in Matthew 24:35-51. You're coming up with Jesus having talked about anything to do with The End Times prior to that in Matthew 24, only in your head. When He said, "the end is not yet", what end do you hurriedly assume in a knee-jerk reaction, with no consideration of resolving that with;

    "Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".



    They must have had a lot longer lives than Methuselah. Like that generation must be 2000 something years old.

    Jesus said 35 "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away".

    Jesus has started talking about when the Earth will pass away for the first time in this Discourse, here,
    then clearly makes a transition from His previous narrative, by using the word, "but";


    36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
    The followers of JESUS knew correctly that JESUS's Coming would be in the last Day.
    Yes, and they were being warned about the Desolation of Abomination that was going to come upon the Jews, and Jerusalem, and their Temple, WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THE LORD GOD OF THE UNIVERSE SAID IT WOULD,
    "Matthew 24:34; Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled".
    Even the Devil can't twist that.

    By the way, the Coming of JESUS and His Vengeance is written in 2Thessalonians 1:7-12, as follow->:
    7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord JESUS shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels,->(Luke 20:35-36)

    8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOD, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ:

    9 Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His Power;

    10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints
    What does that have to do with any of the information Jesus shared about the Romans' Siege of Jerusalem, when they tore all the stones of the Temple down, because they'd heard there was Gold hidden in them? That took place as Jesus described.
    admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that Day. ->the seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, this Day arrived.
    How do you know the seventh "day" is the last Day. Who's ever talked about a seventh Day having to do with anything related to the End Times? What are you cooking up in your warped Escatological Laboratory, now?

    By the way , FOR NOW we are living exactly in this current period of time, the beginning of sorrow.
    How do you think you know something like that? It waited 2000 years to take place? And you know this because you know when the Lord is Coming Back, even after He in Humanity told the Disciples that He didn't? You know something Jesus said He didn't know?
    all these things MUST come to pass, but the END is not yet.
    All those things had to do with the time prior to the END. THE END OF THE TEMPLE AND EVEN JEWISH SACRIFICES!!!!!!
    In fact, it is a PRE-TRIBULATION PERIOD, AND JUST NOW THIS PRE-TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD is FULFILLING LITERALLY.
    Pre-what? Period?
    Very very terrible time, but the wrath of GOD MUST come and they will suffer everlasting perdition and destruction.
    And the worst will still come after, in fulffillment of Matthew 24:15-25. Get ready.
    Yeah, Jesus was telling them that THEY BETTER BE READY TO HEAD OUT OF TOWN.
    What does any of this have to do with Jesus' Second Coming to Earth? "stand in the holy place", 16 "Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 "Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 "Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 "And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
    What in the World does this, with things which could "deceive the very Elect" have to do with Jesus Second Coming?
    23 "Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 26 "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not."
    ^^^^^^^^^
Your satanic verbiage above as a possessed reveals you are among the wickeds as was prophesied in Daniel 12:10, "the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand."
And JESUS said: Matthew 24:10-13
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.


And Paul Apostle said: Romans 3:13-18
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known:
18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.
 
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