plain_n_simple
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A joke, a moron, and now a loser. You are an awesome Christian Curtis, can't wait to hear you preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ at your next bar gig.
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Zaac
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I wonder if we're to believe that he's not talking about your personal life either? :laugh:
Already doing it. There's a move now to remove Robert E. Lee's name from several colleges and memorials and to remove a bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest in the Tennessee state house.
That's what Reconstruction was and what created much of the same Southern culture the Obamunists are whining about.
I think it's kind of ironic that those things are happening again.
What needs to be defended?
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And this is the part nobody ever wants to talk about.
Forrest was instrumental in the dissolution of the Klan in 1869, until Democrat, Woodrow Wilson, revived it.
None of the Obamunists and revisionists seem to want to talk about that little detail.
How many people, in all of the flap about Forrest's membership in the Ku Klux Klan, have mentioned that following his dissolution of the Klan, he became an advocate for African Americans? Have you heard anyone talk about his speech to the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers (the forerunner of the NAACP), in which he declared that he was with them “heart and hand” and pledged his support.
Forrest was a powerful example of the transformative power of the Gospel in a man's life and nobody seems to want to talk about that.
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I don't think so, because racists don't use these things as symbols of hate. And to clarify statements I made in another thread I think if people want to own a Confederate flag, that's their business. But let's not have it flying above the state capitol. And leave it to each state to decide.
Why ??
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It's all an act. That's what trolls do. He doesn't care about anything but creating turmoil, least of all black people.
It's all coming down the road. Giving in to PC terrorists just emboldens them more.
It only makes sense. Why would you leave something named after a Klansman and get rid of a statue of Forrest.
Make me wonder about a newly raised statue of CSA General Patrick Cleburne in Texas. Cleburne had a reputation as one of the best generals in the western confederate army, but he was out of favor with other officers because he advocated freeing the slaves to fight with the confederacy. Many of them would have done so.
PC terrorists aren't interested in the facts. The terrorism serves it's own end. The subject is a distant second.
So, germ warfare in the 18th century. Had never heard of that.
So this general in the English army distributed smallpox tainted blankets to the Indians during a war. The town of Amherst, MA is named after him, as is the college. And you're asking--Should the college and town be renamed?
Found this. Here's what Amherst said in a letter:
P.S. You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of Blankets, as well as to try Every other method that can serve to Extirpate this Execrable Race. I should be very glad your Scheme for Hunting them Down by Dogs could take Effect, but England is at too great a Distance to think of that at present.
There is no proof he actually used the blankets. Even so, this was during a war. I'm going to say no, don't need to rename these places.
Had the blankets been used, and had they remained as a symbol of hatred and spite against Native Americans (like the CSA flag is to blacks), then, yes, I personally would say to rename places with Amherst, but leaving it up to locals to decide.
Here in Minneapolis there is a movement to rename Lake Calhoun, since it is named after J.C. Calhoun. I think they ought to leave it alone.
Yeah, that's the dude. My brother played Rugby at that school.
So you think just the flag has to go, then everyone's happy ?
So you think just the flag has to go, then everyone's happy ?
Already posted this in another thread, but I grew up in Mississippi in the 50s and 60s and observed and watched the evil of segregation daily. It is just plain wrong the way folks were treated because of the color of their skin. What galls me he most is the pastors during that period turning their heads or some even supporting it and a few saw fit to be members of the KKK. Now anyone explain to me how the Holy Spirit could be in someone and they think that this was ok. We are to love our neighbor as ourselves. The whole mindset is totally devoid of the fruits of the Spirit. How many of those lily white pastors do you think are in heaven today?
I hate that system that I grew up in with every fiber of my being. The confederate flag did have historical significance, but today, those that fly it, it is a reflection of hate and of what I saw daily growing up. Burn them as far as I am concerned.
Zaac
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Now you KNOW you better go on and tell it today!!!:thumbsup: That very thing is what I see going on TODAY by white Christians. Like many on this board, they continue to ignore or marginalize whatever Blacks say because I believe with a lot of them, FOX News has really convinced them that we live in a "post-racial society"
"...In Kentucky, the Republican candidate for governor, Matt Bevin, and U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that a statue of Confederate President Jefferson Davis should be removed from the Capitol rotunda, where it sits just feet from a statue of Abraham Lincoln, whose election spurred the South's secession. Both men were born in Kentucky, a border state during the Civil War...."
After Charleston, South revisits its many Confederate images
Breaks my heart, I personally campaigned for Bevin in 94 for congress.
This is just plumb goofy.
....and pure rotten politics.
After Charleston, South revisits its many Confederate images
Breaks my heart, I personally campaigned for Bevin in 94 for congress.
This is just plumb goofy.
....and pure rotten politics.
I like Matt Bevin, too. I got to like him from his frequent appearances on Glenn Beck and Pat and Stu. Sorry to hear he's fallen for this.
I suppose all images/ memorials to these should go also:
"....Following is the number of slaves each of the 12 slaveholding presidents owned. (CAPS indicate the president owned slaves while serving as the chief executive):[1]
- GEORGE WASHINGTON (between 250-350 slaves)
- THOMAS JEFFERSON (about 200)
- JAMES MADISON (more than 100)
- JAMES MONROE (about 75)
- ANDREW JACKSON (fewer than 200)
- Martin Van Buren (one)
- William Henry Harrison (eleven)
- JOHN TYLER (about 70)
- JAMES POLK (about 25)
- ZACHARY TAYLOR (fewer than 150)
- Andrew Johnson (probably eight)
- Ulysses S. Grant (probably five)
It’s a commonplace that Abraham Lincoln never trafficked in slaves, much less owned them – indeed, he “freed the slaves.” But here’s the shocker: Although the slave trade had been abolished in the District of Columbia in 1850, slaves inhabited the capital for another 15 years – till the end of the Civil War. Dwell on that thought: Lincoln fought the Civil War in a slave city – the Great Emancipator inhabited a White House staffed by slaves...."
How many of our presidents owned slaves?
poncho
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Following the lead of radical racial agitators in Charleston, Black Lives Matter ‘protesters’ have vandalized and defaced monuments in two other states, once again endearing only the most ardent radicals to their cause.
Continue . . . http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-statues-and-property-vandalized-by-blacklivesmatter-protesters.html
Continue . . . http://www.prisonplanet.com/more-statues-and-property-vandalized-by-blacklivesmatter-protesters.html
Gee. Black people and vandalism. I never would have seen that one coming.
Ever been in a black neighborhood? Graffiti and vandalism EVERYWHERE.