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What's with the statue of Peter in St. Peter’s Cathedral?

Discussion in 'Free-For-All Archives' started by john6:63, Nov 6, 2003.

  1. neal4christ

    neal4christ New Member

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    You have absolutely no clue, do you? This has absolutely no bearing on why I spoke up and why others have. You seem to not care about PEOPLE. And with that attitude, PEOPLE will pay little attention to what you have to say.

    As to the alleged personal attacks, please point out which ones were false. I am amused that you get upset over my assessments of your actions displayed here. If I have made up something false about you, I will gladly take it back and apologize. If not, maybe you shouldn't be so worried about "personal attacks," but your attitude a little more.

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  2. A_Christian

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    I do care about people; however, I care more about their souls then I do what they think of me.
    I say what needs to be said and if that "seems" uncaring, oh well----I'm NOT a people pleaser when it come to GOD's truth. I use no bad language.

    Needless to say that I feel that it is because of people like yourself that the Christian Church
    degenerated into the ROMAN CATHOLIC church of the DARKAGES. And it because of obinions like YOURS the many in the Anglican church kept quiet until it was too late...

    And it is because of people like yourself why I don't consider myself a Baptist. You're just another denomination looking to be everyone's buddy and not offend anyone and do "social work".
    What happened to the rest will be your fate also,
    I fear.
     
  3. neal4christ

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    Like I said, you don't get it. And until you do, people will not listen to much you have to say or take you serious. Being a people pleaser is the last thing I am concerned with. If so, I would say, "Great job, A_Christian." :D

    What in the world are you talking about? Because I point out your sour attitude and unnecessary offensiveness? Are you resorting to trying to paint me as the great evil, perhaps a part of the whore of Babylon, or blame me for many Christians who do not care about the TRUTH, but their feelings instead? Hmmm....if that makes you feel better. [​IMG]

    I am a denomination? Hmm...wow, I did not know that! [​IMG] Again, seeing as you know nothing about me, your assessment is rather presumptuous. I can guarantee you that my seminary I attend is not worried about offending people and just being social workers. So, you can rest assured, you feelings are misleading you in this assessment as well. And what are you talking about fates? Of who? What fate? Why me?

    And please, remember, if I was worried about not offending people, I wouldn't have said anything to you in the first place, because it is obvious I have offended you. [​IMG]

    By the way, since you brought up social work, do you think Jesus did anything like that because he cared for people and to get their attention? Is social work evil? Or, just perhaps, by doing something good for someone or not trying to be unnecessarily offensive, a person may be more responsive to your message?

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  4. A_Christian

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    When social "WORK" replaces the delivery of the gospel message, then social "WORK" becomes nothing
    but filthy rag. Social work alone NEVER saved anyone's soul.
     
  5. neal4christ

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    Hey, I absolutely agree with you. [​IMG] I am sure that most of our Catholic brethern here would as well! In fact, on another thread here, a Catholic said that works do not save a person. :eek: I guess we can't accuse them of believing that any longer, can we?

    Now, what fate were you alluding to? How is it that you may fear it would befall me?

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  6. A_Christian

    A_Christian New Member

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    Was Jesus being offensive when He said, "Get thee behind me satan?"

    And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:32
     
  7. LaRae

    LaRae Guest

    Pardon me for pointing this out....but you ain't Jesus!

    LaRae
     
  8. neal4christ

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    Not in the sense I am talking about offensive. He did not say, "Peter, you sure are ugly and I really don't want you to be a follower of me because of your bad looks."

    Try as you will, but you are not Jesus Christ. Try as you will, Jesus was not unnecessarily offensive and use false arguments against others.

    Funny that you bring up the verse about being hated by others. If we go by this board, the Catholics are the real Christians, hands down. [​IMG]

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  9. A_Christian

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    Pardon me LaRae, neather is YOUR pope.
     
  10. LaRae

    LaRae Guest

    Nice diversion....however that's not the subject of discussion.

    If you want to start a thread on why you think the pope isn't Jesus...more power to you.

    A hint for you....you will get 100 percent agreement from the Catholics!


    LaRae
     
  11. neal4christ

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    Hmm...I don't think he ever claimed he was. Nor did he quote some verses of what Jesus did and compare the Pope to Jesus.

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  12. A_Christian

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    neal4CHRIST:

    I guess You would have called Gideon insensitive for destroying an altar that was not his.
    Judges6:25-31

    Catholics are not hated, they run the BINGO joints.
     
  13. A_Christian

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    The pope draws far bigger crowds. I guess that makes him far more important then Jesus.
     
  14. LaRae

    LaRae Guest

    Good thing too...gives all those protestants a hobby!


    LaRae
     
  15. LaRae

    LaRae Guest

    What a strawman.

    When was the last time you saw Jesus to compare it with?


    LaRae
     
  16. neal4christ

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    Good try, but do you ever address an issue without trying to dodge direct questions.

    Your argument is wrong. Can you prove that Catholics worship false gods?

    This is absolutely fruitless and you will never admit to anything, but please, for your own sake know that unnecessary offensiveness will get you nowhere except ignored and no one pays attention to you or takes you serious. You don't strive to be offensive just to be offensive.

    Before I finish this discussion with you, please, answer my question (for the third time): What fate were you referring to above and why do you fear it may befall me?

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  17. neal4christ

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    :rolleyes:

    If you noticed, I said on this board. But pretty much generally as well. But you just keep on if it makes you feel better in your own mind.

    By the way, where does it say in your KJV that Bingo is wrong?

    In Christ,
    Neal
     
  18. A_Christian

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    The Catholics do repetitious chants to Mary.
    They call out to dead saints to speak to GOD on their behalf.

    They invent words such as Medeatrix to circumvent
    the one and ONLY mediator between GOD and man----
    Jesus Christ.

    Look, the statue is U G L Y to me. If that hurts your feelings, I'm very sorry. I do hope you grow up and get over it. I have been sidetracked by satan long enough, and have really wasted far too much time on the silly idiotics of bronze figurines. Go out and get some fresh air. I will not be dealing with you on this topic again.
     
  19. Carson Weber

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    Hi A_Christian,

    You wrote, "They call out to dead saints to speak to GOD on their behalf."

    Haven't you ever read the 12th chapter of Mark's Gospel? If not, I encourage you to do so. Pay special attention to Jesus' response with regard to the resurrection question.

    Minor Premise: A living Christian can intercede for me before the throne of Jesus Christ. See 1 Tim 2:1.

    Major Premise: The saints who went before us are living (however, their bodies are lifeless here on earth at present). See Mark 12:27.

    Conclusion: The saints in heaven can intercede for me.

    Also, we see this very intercession of the saints who are alive right now in heaven in the Book of Revelation, which shows scenes in heaven and how they correspond with historical events on Earth.
     
  20. trying2understand

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    Well at least you are man enough to admit that your judgemental and hurtful words here have been sinful.

    Good for you. [​IMG]

    I am sure that those you have offended will be kind enough to accept your apology.
     
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