What's your take on Bush, the New World Order,the Illuminati, 911?

Most people on here probably don't even know about the owl god, or they would chalk it up to another "crazy" conspiracy theory, right, Ponch? As long as the Republican party can go on pretending they are going to do something about the murder of unborn babies, Evangelical Christians will continue to vote for them as the "lesser of two evils" just like last time. Satan is so sly, even the "elect" will be deceived.

I read where the Babylonians and Caananites burned their children before the same owl god way back when. There is nothing new here and at least those ancient evil doers openly admitted what they were doing instead of hiding behind a false pretense like elected Republicans do.

For those who don't know about the owl god, type in Bohemian Grove in Google.

 

It's pathetic that supposedly Christian leaders would attend the Bohemian Grove and act like pagans. And these people are supposed running the country??? Wouldn't the Holy Spirit leave you if you participated in something like that?

 

Disgusting, isn't it? But we are a "Christian nation?" Aren't we? And then some of these very people who dance before the owl god have the arrogance to say "God Bless America." I do believe when World History is reviewed one day, Christians will be horrified and saddened to see how they were duped for their votes from both major political parties and just how much corruption and decadance has taken place through many decades.

 

And how many of their children have been unwittingly "passed through the fire" by agreeing with their policies.

 

It all has to be taken with a pinch of salt... I think...

It does seem something is going on, but I would guess it is far more sinister than just the illuminati and co. Either our world's governments are very stupid or there is more going on than meets the eye.

 

I'm not sure why everyone seems to be predisposed to believe everything that comes out of Washington. We disagree on political matters. Why can't someone disagree on the outcome of investigations of things like the Kennedy assassination or 9/11? Most think that anyone who even questions any aspect of the official 9/11 story is misguided at best and crazy/unpatriotic at worst. I think people are afraid of what the truth would reveal about America.

 

I think we've all seen 3D Stereograms and other optical illusions. The science for many of these optical illusions is that there is a strong part of our brain that seeks to create order out of random and often inconsistent data.

I see this as the primary reason many believe in conspiracy theories. There is information that seems random and inconsistent and our minds tries to create order out of those bits and pieces, many of which are true. But it is the order that we try to create out of them that is not actually there.

Of course, seeking order among chaos is also a common reason to believe in God. I do believe in God and not conspiracy theories, largely because I have faith that God does have the power to create order among chaos. However, conspiracy theories are dependent on the co-operation and coordination of many men who have historically been shown to bumble even the simplest conspiracies through greed, pride, incompetence or a host of other reasons, not to mention the complex and convoluted conspiracies created by the latest batch of conspiracy theorists.

 

I'm not overly concerned about plots to take over the world. They are nothing new. This article helps put things in perspective:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=1772

 

You mean like the CIA bumbling the false flag terror campaign carried out in 1953 in Iran? Then repeating it in Guatemala and other countries around the world. Then making plans to do the same thing, run a "false flag terror campaign" in America to set a pretext for war with Cuba in 1962?

False flag terror campaigns to overthrow governments and control populations has been a standard operating procedure for intelligence agencies for years no randomness to it what so ever. It's their MO. But now it's getting harder for them to do, (people have caught on in other countries, Americans believe whatever they're told by the corporate MSM for the most part) the next best thing is a policy of "pre emption". If you can't do it by covert guile do it by overt force. That's the main difference I see between George H. W. Bush and His son. The elder prefered to do "regime changes" behind the scenes with a modicum of plausible deniablity, his posterity prefers to first manufacture the consent of the people then do it out in the open, hide the facts, demonize the opposition (with a complicit media) and lie his tail off.

The history of false flag operations goes back a long way. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag

 

I wouldn't be surprised if some false flag operations happen, of course not as often as conspiracy theorists claim.

 

False flags have been a standard operating procedure in "our dealings" with other countries since at least 1953. I guess what I'm not understanding is how any person let alone a Christian can say "the use of terrorism is evil and those who would use it are evil" without noticing the obvious double standard in that statement.

We claim that state sponsored terrorism is evil and in all truth it is, yet our own government has used it, admitted it, even bragged about it in their own documents. So, why is it okay for "our guys" to use it and not others? Because we're the "good guys"? Can a person or group that blows things up and runs false flag terror campaigns to blame on others really be considered as "good guys" by Christians?

I'm reminded of, Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

How can we both condemn the use of a thing and make excuses for it at the same time??? Can someone please explain this to me, without the usual denials...please? We all know terrorism is evil and those who would take the time to study the history of it know that "our guys" have used it over and over, even now...threatening other nations with certain destruction if they do not conform and comply to our demands. What makes it acceptable for us to use while condemning others for it???

 

False flag operations, especially terrorism are reprehensible and would not be supported by me. If I was aware a Canadian government did this, they would lose my support in the next election and make sure legislation is in place to make these operations illegal, if legislation doesn't already exist. I do not believe my current Canadian government has engaged in this activity.

 

The history of the United States clearly shows we've never shied away from it's use. Of course it's always been acceptable because "it was for a good cause" freedom and democracy and all that. All the legislation in the world isn't going to make a difference as long as the government can operate in secret and shield itself from and whitewash investigations. In this country it would seem as though this has been a matter of policy under both democrats and republicans since the end of WW2...how is withholding support from one party or another going to make a difference if both are using the same policy (strategy)?