When ‘Thanks’ and ‘Giving’ Resonate as One

[KenH]

“Whoever is righteous has regard for the life of his beast, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” - ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭12:10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

I have been following this story since it broke 18 months ago. I was so saddened by the evil that created this horrific situation for over three dozen horses and also thrilled over how the horse community came together, by the grace of God, to help.

“On July 2 they made the short drive to a tidy farm owned by Dr. Christopher Lyons, an orthopedic surgeon who competes in fox hunting and usually has eight or 10 ex-racehorses stabled on his property. The doctor led the Plancks to a plucky bay with a splotchy white star atop a meandering white blaze that looked like an upside-down exclamation point.

Dr. Lyons disclosed that the gelding had been rescued from dire circumstances in Kentucky the previous year but had rebounded tremendously. He would have liked to keep that Thoroughbred to ride himself, but the 8-year-old was a little too small for him, so the doctor had promised the gelding’s initial racing owner he’d try to find someone who might be a better fit size-wise and in terms of compatibility.

“It was just all the stars aligning,” Tracy Planck explained in a phone interview just prior to Thanksgiving. “We went up on a Sunday morning. My daughter’s trainer rode him, then my daughter rode him. And she wasn’t even off of his back yet when she said, ‘Mom, go home and get the trailer.’ It was really just love at first sight.”

Lily had been saving up to pay the adoption fee for a Thoroughbred, but Dr. Lyons wouldn’t take any money for the gelding, who was named Z Camelot (Smart Strike). He did, however, hand over a letter from the owner who had first raced the horse, which explained that if whoever adopted Z Camelot could not care for him for any reason, he wanted to know and would take the Thoroughbred back, no questions asked. The signature on that letter belonged to Ahmed Zayat.

“We did not know the horse’s history when we went to see him,” Planck explained. “We knew that he was a rescue. But it wasn’t until after I Googled his name that we were just shocked. We just didn’t know how horrifically neglected that he was.””

» When ‘Thanks’ and ‘Giving’ Resonate as One

 

[Bro. Curtis]

You cite an atheist to tell me animals deserve to go to heaven ?

Can you cite any scripture ?

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Then why do they fight when captured ?

And i guess now I know why you vote democrat. You really just don’t care about people.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Yeah. Never said it did. I asked why animals fight death, if it’s God’s will. No matter if a human or another animal is doing the killing.

Don’t put it words in my mouth anymore, please.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Because you vote abortion and child slavery. I question your priorities. Remember, you are the one who claims this action is actually “by the grace of God”. I say that is absolute hogwash.

That, and the way you avoid questions. Like my first one.

 

[annsni]

Sadly, many horses are in the same poor condition as this horse - and many don't make it. But there are also children in this same condition as well. We need to fight for them all.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

That’s silly. I think human babies, humans in general are higher up on the scale with our Father God than any number of horses.

I take issue with “ by the grace of God” in the article and would like it explained. But I’ll also call out the hypocrisy of the O/P as a substitute for an answer to the challenge.

I also take issue with “animals don’t fight against God’s will”. Animals are pure pagan hedonists by nature. Driven solely by instinct. They are not capable of understanding God’s will or submission to it.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

This story had nothing to do with abortion or child slavery.

Save the horses, Ken. I see you only want praise for the article.

 

[KenH]

Save the horses, Ken.

I try to help. The Lord willing, I will continue to do so.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

This story had nothing to do with abortion or child slavery.

If you want a thread on those subjects, you can start one.

I was answering a direct question from you. Don’t ask me questions and then whine about the answer.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Nope. I will continue challenge you. If you don’t like it, perhaps you should follow through with your promise to move on.

Or you could have answered my original questions in a serious manner.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Well perhaps I misunderstood it as the entire board. My mistake.

I stand by pretty much everything else.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Second, you posted this as a news piece when it is clearly an opinion piece. I submit you put it in the wrong forum.

Opinion pieces are rebuttable.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I’m glad Montana elected Ryan Zinke to Congress. Horse neglect will become the law of the land of this anti-slaughter insanity isn’t stopped.

 

[KenH]

From a 2009 article:

"Anti-slaughter activists would like all excess horses to be cared for, but have not designated who would pay what Robert Lawrence of the Equine Industry Program at the University of Louisville estimates to be $400 million dollars a year. A few years ago, an anti-slaughter bill was passed in California. The result was just as veterinarians opposed to the bill feared. Horses were still sent to slaughter — only they had farther to travel (Mexico and Canada as opposed to Texas) and they traveled in worse conditions. Many other horses (as the veterinarians also feared) were simply left to starve when their owners could no longer feed them, since euthanizing and rendering cost money that an owner may not have. And abandonment is a problem that has burgeoned since the beginning of the current recession. Last fall, a certain town in Northern California announced that horses could be brought to town on a certain Saturday for no-questions-asked euthanization. It was the most merciful thing to do."

Why Horse Slaughter Is Necessary

I don't like it, but reality is what it is.

 

[rsr]

Several off-topic posts and resulting replies have been deleted. Please keep discussions relevant to the OP.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

What ? So I can put up an opinion piece, call it the will of God, and go unchallenged ?

I believe we are allowed to challenge posts and I think this is heavey handedness from a moderator who has had problems in the past doing his job objectively.

My discussion WAS relevant to the OP.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

If the words “ the grace of God” did not appear in the OP I would have ignored the entire thread, like I do most of Kenh’s posts. .

 

[KenH]

If the words “ the grace of God” did not appear in the OP

So does this verse offend you?

“Whoever is righteous has regard for the life of his beast, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” - ‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭12:10‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Are you saying that showing kindness to an abused animal is not the will of God?

 

[annsni]

From a 2009 article:

"Anti-slaughter activists would like all excess horses to be cared for, but have not designated who would pay what Robert Lawrence of the Equine Industry Program at the University of Louisville estimates to be $400 million dollars a year. A few years ago, an anti-slaughter bill was passed in California. The result was just as veterinarians opposed to the bill feared. Horses were still sent to slaughter — only they had farther to travel (Mexico and Canada as opposed to Texas) and they traveled in worse conditions. Many other horses (as the veterinarians also feared) were simply left to starve when their owners could no longer feed them, since euthanizing and rendering cost money that an owner may not have. And abandonment is a problem that has burgeoned since the beginning of the current recession. Last fall, a certain town in Northern California announced that horses could be brought to town on a certain Saturday for no-questions-asked euthanization. It was the most merciful thing to do."

Why Horse Slaughter Is Necessary

I don't like it, but reality is what it is.

I agree. SO many are against horse slaughter and have pipe dreams that everything will be wonderful if we just find homes for these horses but unfortunately, there are just not enough homes. When slaughter was legal here in the US, it helped to weed out those horses at the bottom of the rung who are just not adoptable for whatever reason and putting them down is actually more humane for them. I'm all for well regulated slaughter in the US AND a huge crackdown on horse breeding. My feeling is that it should take a license to breed horses and 99.9% of the geldings in this country should be cut (meaning castrated). I know so many people who think "I have a mare and I love her and she is the best thing around and I want her to have a baby so we can raise a baby together and I'll take care of it forever" is the most ridiculous thing ever. Just because she has a uterus doesn't mean it needs to be used. MOST horses are "grade" horses - not worth breeding. The ONLY breeding that should be done is to benefit the breed or for ranches to create their own new stock that they will use and keep for the duration. MOST babies that are born do not stay on the farm where they were born and so many end up in the pipeline and head for slaughter - or are mistreated, neglected or worse yet, turned out into the wilderness to fend for themselves. A friend has a very large ranch and she gets numerous horses turned out on her property from people who don't want them anymore. She puts every one of those horses down herself because she just doesn't have the time or resources to quarantine them and do vet care for each and every one of them. It is more humane for her to put them down than to send them to auction. If people only knew....