When serving communion

[Salty]

You are having a communion service:

1) and there is a church member who you know personally know or a fact who is living in open sin.

2) you have a member who is a politician and while campaigning - states that the government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

Do you instruct your deacons not to serve those individual - or what?

Some here might say - "depends on the circumstances" okay- give some examples.

Open for discussion

 

[Reynolds]

You are having a communion service:

1) and there is a church member who you know personally know or a fact who is living in open sin.

2) you have a member who is a politician and while campaigning - states that the government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

Do you instruct your deacons not to serve those individual - or what?

Some here might say - "depends on the circumstances" okay- give some examples.

Open for discussion

You should have exercised church discipline long before communion. As to communion, one is supposed to examine himself. We not Catholic. Take care of Church Discipline as Bible prescribes.

 

[Salty]

should have--- but it didnt happen - so what do you do when communion is served..

 

[37818]

You are having a communion service:

1) and there is a church member who you know personally know or a fact who is living in open sin.

2) you have a member who is a politician and while campaigning - states that the government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

Do you instruct your deacons not to serve those individual - or what?

Some here might say - "depends on the circumstances" okay- give some examples.

Open for discussion

Two things to note. 1) Judas took the communion, Luke 22:21, and Christ instituted it. 2) Second, 1 Corinthians 11:28, ". . . let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup."

 

[Salty]

Two things to note. 1) Judas took the communion, Luke 22:21, and Christ instituted it. 2) Second, 1 Corinthians 11:28, ". . . let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup."

So are you saying its up to the individual to examine himself - and that the church should not take any action during the communion service?

 

[37818]

So are you saying its up to the individual to examine himself - and that the church should not take any action during the communion service?

Two issues. Church discipline should be done as church discilpine. The communion service instruction teaches its up to the individual to examine himself, per 1Corinthians 11:28.

 

[Reynolds]

should have--- but it didnt happen - so what do you do when communion is served..

Maybe you should refrain from having communion until you take care of Church Discipline.
Where in Bible does it say refuse to serve someone communion?

 

[Reynolds]

So are you saying its up to the individual to examine himself - and that the church should not take any action during the communion service?

What in Bible says differently?
Paul says to first address the sinning brother in private. Your first action being done in public is against Scripture.

 

[Salty]

Maybe you should refrain from having communion until you take care of Church Discipline.
Where in Bible does it say refuse to serve someone communion?

so one person is living in open sin - are you going to make the entire church wait until that is taken care of?

 

[Reynolds]

so one person is living in open sin - are you going to make the entire church wait until that is taken care of?

What does Bible say? How does Bible say to handle sin in Church? Where does it say to deny communion?
Why you letting open sin go on in Church?

 

[Salty]

What does Bible say? How does Bible say to handle sin in Church? Where does it say to deny communion?
Why you letting open sin go on in Church?

First - you must realize is that what I gave is a theoretical situation
Second you stated that "you should refrain from having communion until you take care of Church Discipline".

So, let me give you a "lets suppose" Lest say the church has dwealt with that individual - - but he shows up that Sunday night - knowing we are having communion.

If you are the pastor - what action would you take?

 

[Reynolds]

First - you must realize is that what I gave is a theoretical situation
Second you stated that "you should refrain from having communion until you take care of Church Discipline".

So, let me give you a "lets suppose" Lest say the church has dwealt with that individual - - but he shows up that Sunday night - knowing we are having communion.

If you are the pastor - what action would you take?

If you have already "dealt with" him, he has repented or he would not be allowed back.

 

[Salty]

If you have already "dealt with" him, he has repented or he would not be allowed back.

For the sake of this discussion -we will say that he has not repented but came on that Sunday night anyways

AS WAS THE POINT IN THE OP

 

[rlvaughn]

You are having a communion service:

1) and there is a church member who you know personally know or a fact who is living in open sin.

2) you have a member who is a politician and while campaigning - states that the government has no right to tell a woman what to do with her body.

Do you instruct your deacons not to serve those individual - or what?

Some here might say - "depends on the circumstances" okay- give some examples.

Open for discussion

The person living in open sin (which would also include #2, promoting abortion) would be excluded from church membership and ineligible to take communion. 1 Corinthians 5 is a good discourse on this.

 

[Reynolds]

For the sake of this discussion -we will say that he has not repented but came on that Sunday night anyways

AS WAS THE POINT IN THE OP

He should not be allowed in. If he is not in, it's not a problem. If he snuck by your ushers, remove him. If you don't see him till you are passing out communion, throw him out then.

 

[Reynolds]

Salty. What sin you gonna draw the line at. You gonna deny communion to the gossiping old women? If you gonna deny communion, you should definitely include the gossiping old women's club in the excommuned group.

 

[Salty]

Salty. What sin you gonna draw the line at. You gonna deny communion to the gossiping old women? If you gonna deny communion, you should definitely include the gossiping old women's club in the excommuned group.

Okay - what is your rule

 

[Reynolds]

Okay - what is your rule

That is the problem, 99.9% of pastors won't follow the Scriptural rule. My rule is to address any known continual sin with Church discipline. I could rarely get anyone to go along. Everyone scared.
Who is committing greater sin, teenage girl who is pregnant or the old busy body women gossiping about her? The biggest thing I see is deacons who are crooked business men. We should deal with all of it.