When was Peter born again?

You can conclude that. There is no other explanation for his obedience.

 

Calvinism is essentially the truth of Scripture. That has been soundly demsonstrated here and no one from your side has been able to refute it.

If you read what I said, then you don't have to ask. I clearly said that you took the answer to one question and pretended it was an answer to another question. That is not a personal attack. It may well have been an innocent mistake. All I did was state the fact.

I didn't.

I have my doubts about whether these are honest questions. You have been here and have asked most of these questions before. You have seen teh answers. It is hard for me to believe that they are honest from you. Ben Elohim is making diatribes. His questions are hard to take as serious either. In any case, the answers are easy to find if you are truly interested. Start buying good books and studying.

Calvinism is not "Larry's." What I believe is what Scripture teaches. As for Spirit regeneration, just read your Bible. It talks of being "born of the Spirit." That is clear explicit proof.

I already answered that. I said basic teaching of Scripture. How then do you come and ask "who's basic teaching"? (BTW, it is "whose basic teaching.")

That is irrelevant. If you are born again, then you were born again by the Spirit. He is the one who gives life.

He has ... It is right there in his word.

 

More correctly it seems ("unable") would be more appropreate.
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike </font>[/QUOTE]No, that would in fact be incorrect. YOu know very well that I am able. I just have better stuff to do than repeat what many others have said before me. Truth is that you have been exposed to the evidence. You should already know. You have asked these questions before and apparently didn't learn then, for whatever reason.

 

ok,

It was not the smartest thing in the world to bite the baited hook ... BUT, I tho't the answer would be understandable ...

SO,

What does, "When was Peter born again, have to do with Total Depravity?

And how does his regeneration relate with his "Total Depravity"?

 

As I already said, you are confused about the many roles of the Holy Spirit. Your failure to study that doctrine has led to your obvious mistakes in this. Please take the time to study it through.

The Bible teaches that unsaved man cannot understand the things of God and cannot please him. Only when God opens their spiritual eyes can they see and respond. You don't have to call that regeneration. You may call it whatever you like, but that is the plain teaching of Scripture. As Christ said in Matt 16, the only reason that Peter recognized Jesus as Christ the Son of the living God (a necessary recognition for salvation) was because God had revealed it to him. That is regeneration.

To be honest, you are presenting among the weakest arguments that have ever been presented here. You are bringing absolutely nothing to the table. It is not even challenging ... Are you seriously convinced by your arguments, or are you just playing the devil's advocate?

 

Because those are references to the work of the Spirit in revelation and inspiration, as well as the other functions such as baptism, sealing, etc.

I am always ready to answer questions. But if you ask them, be prepared to get them. But most of the questions you are asking can be readily attained by simple study. You need to put some time in that.

 

I have patiently tried to answer your questions. I have encouraged you to study. I have avoided no question. I have simply indicated that your knowledge of the doctrine of the Holy Spirit is lacking and therefore you are confused about these things. The transitional time between the old and new dispensations is a time of change as the Holy Spirit takes on new roles in addition to regeneration. It will be in your best interests to quit making ridiculous charges, quit asking the same questions time and time again, and study the answers you are getting.

This smacks of not being an honest discussion. And that is troubling.

 

Larry

So why even bother with your coments at all? When all your willing to do is nit pic my gramar and make demeaning coments about me.
May Christ Shine His Light On Us All;
Mike

 

I have reason to question that statement ... but it isn't a biblical reason.

So I say I haven't avoided a question because I have avoided a question? That makes no sense. The reason that I said I hadn't avoided a question is because I haven't. I mean what I say.

What question did I avoid?

 

If you don't bother with my posts, that is fine with me. But if you do bother with them, don't make stuff up. When you said I was unable to do something, you were wrong, and you know that you were wrong. YOu have been here long enough to know that I can support my position. You disagree with the support, and that is fine. YOu will answer to God for that, just as I will. But don't make stuff up. Don't accuse me of something that isn't true.

I didn't nit pick your grammar. I pointed it out in hopes of clarification and help for the future. I had to read your statement several times to figure it out because what you meant was not what you said. You used a possessive rather than a noun and verb. It confused the meaning of the sentence and I didn't want others to be confused as well.

And I have made no demeaning comments about you. You have said things about me far worse than any I have said about you. And quite frankly, I don't really care. Just don't make personal attacks. I refuse to and expect it from others.

He already has in his word.

 

First, learn to use the quote feature. It helps to distinguish you words from those who are citing. Click on the link beside the reply box that says UBB Code is enabled. It will teach you how.

Silly nonsense. I didn't add anything to Scripture. I told you what I believe it means. It quite clearly is not hte initial reception of hte Holy Spirit.

Actually, there are sevearl things involved in that, including Spirit baptism, inspiration, sealing, etc.

The judicial, non-experiential work of the Spirit by which believers are placed into the body of Christ (1 Cor 13:12).

That takes place at the moment of salvation, which is why Peter had the Spirit prior to the passages you list.

Funny thing is .. and you don't realize it ... that you are not making any sense. None of what you have said even remotely calls into question OT regeneration. I am not sure that you even believe that you have questioned it.

1) the fact that Nicodemus was supposed to have known about regeneration from the OT.
2) the fact that people followed God in faith. Without regeneration, there is no explanation for that.

 

I didn't say that, and you know it.

A gross and unaceptable misrepresentation of what I said.

I didn't say that either, and you know it.

No, that is incorrect.