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Where Did Our Faith Come From?
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Brightfame52
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@Van
All this is a false gospel, the only true statement is "Scripture says Jesus will save His people" which is what is stated in Matt 1:21, but the Gospel specifically should detail who His People are, it surely isnt all humanity ! Are these His People Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Did He reconciled them to God by His death Rom 5:10
Scripture says Jesus will save His people. Scripture says God is reconciling humanity. How far afield will you go to deny God has revealed the means of salvation and we are to repent and believe.
All this is a false gospel, the only true statement is "Scripture says Jesus will save His people" which is what is stated in Matt 1:21, but the Gospel specifically should detail who His People are, it surely isnt all humanity ! Are these His People Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Did He reconciled them to God by His death Rom 5:10
Did anyone say God would save "all humanity?" Nope so just more deflection to hid false doctrine.@Van
All this is a false gospel, the only true statement is "Scripture says Jesus will save His people" which is what is stated in Matt 1:21, but the Gospel specifically should detail who His People are, it surely isnt all humanity ! Are these His People Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Did He reconciled them to God by His death Rom 5:10
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
Who is Jesus said He shall save from their sins Matt 1:21Did anyone say God would save "all humanity?" Nope so just more deflection to hid false doctrine.
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
@Van
What Jesus have you leaned of ? Is it the Jesus that came to specifically save His People from their sins ? Or the false jesus who merely provided a means of salvation, for whatever thats worth.
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
But how can it be preached that Christ died to save His people from their sins but not that God elected those people according to His glorious grace?
Thus our faith in Christ comes from us trusting in what we have learned about Jesus, i.e. God incarnate who died to provide our means of salvation
What Jesus have you leaned of ? Is it the Jesus that came to specifically save His People from their sins ? Or the false jesus who merely provided a means of salvation, for whatever thats worth.
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
But how can it be preached that Christ died to save His people from their sins but not that God elected those people according to His glorious grace?
Mat 1:21 (KJB)And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. The angel continues to bring information to Joseph in the dream and now tells him what the mission of Jesus will be. He states that the name of the child will be Jesus. The name Jesus is the Greek form of the Hebrew name “Joshua.” The name means “Jehovah is salvation.” The angel then tells Joseph that “he will save his people from their sins.” Immediately from the start, we see that there will be no universal salvation and only those whose names were written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will become saved. These people are known as the Elect of God. Jesus will not be dying for the sins of the whole world but only for the Elect. (John 13:1 KJV) Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. John 13:1 states that Jesus loved “his own” and not everyone. It is bad theology to teach that Jesus loves everyone. (John 17:9 KJV) I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. In the prayer of Jesus in John 17, we see that He is praying for those the Father gave Him and not for everyone in the world. Jesus came to die for a specific group of people which is otherwise known as “limited atonement.” Matthew 1:21-25
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
The angel in Matthew 1:21 declared election when he said of the Lord Jesus, "...He shall save His people from their sins"; and Christ also preached election when He proclaimed, "I am the Good Shepherd: the Good Shepherd giveth His life for the sheep"; and "...I lay down My life for the sheep" (Jn. 10:11,15). The Doctrines Of The Gospel... (2) | godsonlygospel
Here the falsehood that all of those to be saved had been chosen before Christ died is peddled once again.@Van
What Jesus have you leaned of ? Is it the Jesus that came to specifically save His People from their sins ? Or the false jesus who merely provided a means of salvation, for whatever thats worth.
Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
But how can it be preached that Christ died to save His people from their sins but not that God elected those people according to His glorious grace?
Note the response to the verse is ignored. No support for the false claim all His people had been chosen before He came is offered. His people are all those God has given and will give to Christ, for God is reconciling, not has reconciled, humanity to Himself.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
Again, if you dont witness for the Jesus who shall save His particular people from their sins,you witness of false a christ. Even the Angel knew that Jesus was going to only save a particular people Matt 1:21Here the falsehood that all of those to be saved had been chosen before Christ died is peddled once again.
Note the response to the verse is ignored. No support for the false claim all His people had been chosen before He came is offered. His people are all those God has given and will give to Christ, for God is reconciling, not has reconciled, humanity to Himself.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Its a people chosen in Him before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.Again, if you dont witness for the Jesus who shall save His particular people from their sins,you witness of false a christ. Even the Angel knew that Jesus was going to only save a particular people Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Its a people chosen in Him before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
Matt 1:21God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Vans jesus Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall give a opportunity to get to be His people and save you from your sins
LOL, talk about posting disinformation!!Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Vans jesus Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall give a opportunity to get to be His people and save you from your sins
For Jesus will provide the means of salvation for humanity, and will save those chosen as His people from their sins.
The opportunity for salvation is at hand, do not let anyone prevent you from entering the Kingdom of God.
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21LOL, talk about posting disinformation!!
For Jesus will provide the means of salvation for humanity, and will save those chosen as His people from their sins.
The opportunity for salvation is at hand, do not let anyone prevent you from entering the Kingdom of God.
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
LOL, talk about posting disinformation!!So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
For Jesus will provide the means of salvation for humanity, and will save those chosen as His people from their sins.
The opportunity for salvation is at hand, do not let anyone prevent you from entering the Kingdom of God.
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21LOL, talk about posting disinformation!!
For Jesus will provide the means of salvation for humanity, and will save those chosen as His people from their sins.
The opportunity for salvation is at hand, do not let anyone prevent you from entering the Kingdom of God.
God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Those who have been reconciled thus far as "His People" but the opportunity to become chosen and become part of His People chosen for His own possession still exists.
Folks the Gospel is Good News, your salvation is possible. You were not saved or damned from all eternity for all eternity. That claim is false doctrine.
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
The poster says jesus will give everyone an opportunity get saved, folks thats another jesus, Not the Jesus of Matt 1:21
Here is the True Jesus:
Mat 1:21 (KJB)And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. The angel continues to bring information to Joseph in the dream and now tells him what the mission of Jesus will be. He states that the name of the child will be Jesus. The name Jesus is the Greek form of the Hebrew name “Joshua.” The name means “Jehovah is salvation.” The angel then tells Joseph that “he will save his people from their sins.” Immediately from the start, we see that there will be no universal salvation and only those whose names were written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will become saved. These people are known as the Elect of God. Jesus will not be dying for the sins of the whole world but only for the Elect. (John 13:1 KJV) Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end. John 13:1 states that Jesus loved “his own” and not everyone. It is bad theology to teach that Jesus loves everyone. (John 17:9 KJV) I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. In the prayer of Jesus in John 17, we see that He is praying for those the Father gave Him and not for everyone in the world. Jesus came to die for a specific group of people which is otherwise known as “limited atonement.”Matthew 1:21-25
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
Its a false gospel and christ who came to only make salvation an open opportunity to get saved, if only man does something, the Gospel declares the Jesus of Matt 1:21 who came to save sinners, even Gods elect 1 Tim 1:15
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
This isnt a make salvation possible Saviour, but a Saviour that saves sinners from their sins.
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.
This isnt a make salvation possible Saviour, but a Saviour that saves sinners from their sins.
1) Did I say Jesus will give everyone an opportunity to be saved? Nope, so the pattern of disinformation continues unabated.So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:21
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
The poster says jesus will give everyone an opportunity get saved, folks thats another jesus, Not the Jesus of Matt 1:21
Here is the True Jesus:
SNIP
Immediately from the start, we see that there will be no universal salvation and only those whose names were written in the Lamb’s Book of Life will become saved. SNIP
2) Do those who never heard the gospel have an opportunity to be saved? Nope
3) Do those whose heart has been hardened have the opportunity to be saved? Nope
4) Did I suggest there will be "universal salvation?" Nope, so the pattern of disinformation continues unabated.
5) Have all the names been written in the Lamb's book of Life? Nope, God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Thus everyone God will transfer into Christ today and until the end of the age have not yet had their names written in His book.
6) Once again, the false doctrine that the Kingdom of God is not actually at hand, that no one has the opportunity to receive mercy and be saved as everyone to be saved has already been chosen is pushed.
Pay no attention to this false doctrine
Brightfame52
Well-Known Member
So you dont preach this Jesus Matt 1:211) Did I say Jesus will give everyone an opportunity to be saved? Nope, so the pattern of disinformation continues unabated.
2) Do those who never heard the gospel have an opportunity to be saved? Nope
3) Do those whose heart has been hardened have the opportunity to be saved? Nope
4) Did I suggest there will be "universal salvation?" Nope, so the pattern of disinformation continues unabated.
5) Have all the names been written in the Lamb's book of Life? Nope, God is reconciling humanity to Himself. Thus everyone God will transfer into Christ today and until the end of the age have not yet had their names written in His book.
6) Once again, the false doctrine that the Kingdom of God is not actually at hand, that no one has the opportunity to receive mercy and be saved as everyone to be saved has already been chosen is pushed.
Pay no attention to this false doctrine
21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
The poster says jesus will give everyone an opportunity get saved, folks thats another jesus, Not the Jesus of Matt 1:21