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Where did "unspoken prayer requests" originate?

Gershom

Active Member
In the context of our modern day altar prayers (where the congregation all meets at the altar to pray collectively), where did the "unspoken" prayer request come from?

In my first church, the pastor would ask for any prayer requests and those who had certain requests made them known by voicing them. After that, he would say "any unspoken requests?" and some folks would raise their hands. Now, I know that some people might have things they don't want to be made public, but my question is, where did this originate and how can we pray for needs that we know nothing of other than to pray, "I pray for those with "unspoken requests"?
 

tinytim

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Stuff that others ask you to keep confidential, but still need prayer.

I also heard someplace that the devil can't read your mind... and only knows to attack if something is spoken...So some are afraid if they voice a request, satan will do more to hinder it.

While I disagree with this, if people believe this, they will say "unspoken"

I have at times when someone says they want the church to pray for them, but wants to keep details confidential..
 

JustChristian

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How about this passage of scripture?

Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, [then] do we with patience wait for [it].
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.
 

Gershom

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BaptistBeliever said:
How about this passage of scripture?

Rom 8:25 But if we hope for that we see not, [then] do we with patience wait for [it].
Rom 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God.

But the passage says that the Spirit (not men)interceeds when we can't pray as we ought. I think the people with "unspoken requests" are not at a loss in how to pray, but want to keep the request private. I'm not against the practice. I just think it's kinda strange to ask someone to pray for you without them knowing what they're praying for.

:jesus:
 

Benjamin

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Gershom said:
I just think it's kinda strange to ask someone to pray for you without them knowing what they're praying for.

I think the unspoken prayer requests are supported Biblically. God hears from the heart of those asking, and hears from the hearts of those who respond. The details are usually better left private.

When I pray, either for myself or others, I’m not looking for signs of personal empowerment or achievement, and if for instance that prayer were to be answered in a very positive way I don’t want people to even naively assume I had anything to do with it, because, of course, I didn’t, it was God’s will to answer that prayer the way He did. This is what I have a big problem with the Word Faith movement about. (giving the glory to man)

(Mat 6:2) Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
For example, in giving, when I give to someone I try not to even think about anything except, “would this be pleasing to God”.

(Mat 6:3) But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
When I reach out to help someone I keep the appearance simple, quiet, and try not to let it become a spectacle if at all possible; I know that God knows what I’m doing and I would just as soon keep it a secret between us. If the recipient later realizes the blessing, the credit is God’s, I need no thanks; to see their fulfillment is thanks enough, so for this reason I politely yet firmly as possible refuse any attempt at repayment from them.

(Mat 6:4) That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
I prefer to pray privately, and if someone asks for my prayer I will usually simply reply that, “I will pray for you” UNLESS I see the need, and feel I have the ability to help them to hear that prayer, as in maybe some guidance as to what to pray for. Again, I watch for the blessing of answer prayers in secret.

(Mat 6:5) And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
I have witnessed the reward of secret private prayer, and much of that reward has to do with strengthened faith in the goodness of God.

(Mat 6:6) But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
I know God not only hears me the first time, but also knows my heart and what I will be praying for before the words, or thoughts, come out of my mind and if I pray about the same thing it is because I have something to add to my thoughts as I grow.

(Mat 6:7) But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

(Mat 6:8) Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
Therefore, I actually prefer to pray for someone, (at least when concerning the more mature in Christ) who have requested prayer for an unspoken subject. I do not feel the need to have the details in that case, and I anguish the common happenings of gossip and boasting that often might result while I hear the beating of drums, because I know it is in God’s hands alone and God is good, true to His words.
 
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JustChristian

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Gershom said:
But the passage says that the Spirit (not men)interceeds when we can't pray as we ought. I think the people with "unspoken requests" are not at a loss in how to pray, but want to keep the request private. I'm not against the practice. I just think it's kinda strange to ask someone to pray for you without them knowing what they're praying for.

:jesus:


I think the Bible is saying here that the Holy Spirit can take over when we don't know what we should pray for or how to do it.
 

moondg

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Benjamin said:
I know God not only hears me the first time

What? Were does this come from? God only hears us the first time. What is He doing the rest of the time?
 

Benjamin

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moondg said:
Benjamin said:
I know God not only hears me the first time

What? Were does this come from? God only hears us the first time. What is He doing the rest of the time?

I don’t know the mind of God. I do meditate on His words, keeping them especially close to my heart, knowing that they are true as I pray. So not only does He hear me the first time but I keep in mind:

(Mat 6:7) But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
 

David Lamb

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Gershom said:
In the context of our modern day altar prayers (where the congregation all meets at the altar to pray collectively), where did the "unspoken" prayer request come from?

In my first church, the pastor would ask for any prayer requests and those who had certain requests made them known by voicing them. After that, he would say "any unspoken requests?" and some folks would raise their hands. Now, I know that some people might have things they don't want to be made public, but my question is, where did this originate and how can we pray for needs that we know nothing of other than to pray, "I pray for those with "unspoken requests"?

Sorry, not only have I never heard of these "unspoken prayer requests" (I thought at first you meant "prayers which are spoken in the quietness of the heart, rather than aloud"), but I have never heard of a baptist chapel that has an altar, unless it is another name for the "throne of Grace". Is it a physical piece of furniture?
 

ReformedBaptist

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David Lamb said:
Sorry, not only have I never heard of these "unspoken prayer requests" (I thought at first you meant "prayers which are spoken in the quietness of the heart, rather than aloud"), but I have never heard of a baptist chapel that has an altar, unless it is another name for the "throne of Grace". Is it a physical piece of furniture?

The "altar" doesn't have to be a physical piece of furnature. Some churces make reference to it simply to mean the front part of their building which could be a stair that leads up to the platform. We don't refer to anything in the building we rent as an altar.

As far as unspoken prayers I think they originated from churches that take public prayer requests. Some have not been comfortable sharing publically the details of a specific request so some churches asked for any "unspoken prayers" and people would raise their hands. Seems odd to me.
 

Amy.G

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I have always had a problem with the unspoken prayer request issue. How can I pray for something if I don't know what it is? Should I ask God to grant the request for the person even though it may not be a righteous request?

I can pray for God's will in their life, but that's as far as I can go because I don't have a clue what their request is and it may be something they shouldn't even be asking for. I'm not going to ask God for something on behalf of another person not knowing what it is I'm asking Him to do.

On a personal note, if I don't feel comfortable enough or trust another person enough to make my request known to them, I'm not going to ask them to pray for me either. But that's just me.

I don't understand the altar issue either. God hears my prayers wherever I am, whether sitting in the pew, kneeling at the altar (in our church it's benches) or in the shower.
We worship in spirit and in truth. He is with me always. I pray when the Spirit leads me. I talk to God all day just like He's right there beside me.
 

just-want-peace

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Right on Amy! You've pretty well summarized my feelings on this subject.

If it makes one feel good to ask for an "unspoken" request, be my guest; just don't condemn me if I choose otherwise.
 

Rippon

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I agree wholeheartedly with Amy in her post #15 .

I don't get these 'unspoken prayer requests ' . Does anyone know of anyone primarily asking for these prayers almost exclusively for years on end ?
 
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