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Where does the Apostle Paul Mention "Hell"

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MichaelBoryAlis

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No Bible translation I could find places the Nordic name "Hell" on the greek word "Hades" where Paul mentioned it once. All other places in the Gospels and Book of Revelation, the translators placed the name "Hell" there. There are a few translations like the Young's Literal and NKJV that simple uses Hades.

Once found, I'm interested to learn of others interpretation of "Hades" in the context Paul uses it.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis said:
No Bible translation I could find places the Nordic name "Hell" on the greek word "Hades" where Paul mentioned it once. All other places in the Gospels and Book of Revelation, the translators placed the name "Hell" there. There are a few translations like the Young's Literal and NKJV that simple uses Hades.

Once found, I'm interested to learn of others interpretation of "Hades" in the context Paul uses it.
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why is this a problem with you?
 
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MichaelBoryAlis

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SavedByGrace said:
why is this a problem with you?
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Problem?
Alternately, I have found it quite enlightening, especially when assessing the context. It coincides nicely with Matthew 16:18, where Jesus mentioned the "Gates of Hades" (Hell).

By your response, I'm wondering if your offended by such a question from my OP. I've always found being Socratic is better than being Dogmatic.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis said:
Problem?
Alternately, I have found it quite enlightening, especially when assessing the context. It coincides nicely with Matthew 16:18, where Jesus mentioned the "Gates of Hades" (Hell).

By your response, I'm wondering if your offended by such a question from my OP. I've always found being Socratic is better than being Dogmatic.
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why should the term "hell" be an issue at all? In the NT is describes "hades", "gehenna" and "tartaroo", depending on what Bible version one uses. The OED defines "hell" as, "A place regarded in various religions as a spiritual realm of evil and suffering, often traditionally depicted as a place of perpetual fire beneath the earth where the wicked are punished after death.". I am not offended but curious as to the title, as though this is absent in Paul's thinking.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis

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SavedByGrace said:
why should the term "hell" be an issue at all? In the NT is describes "hades", "gehenna" and "tartaroo", depending on what Bible version one uses. The OED defines "hell" as, "A place regarded in various religions as a spiritual realm of evil and suffering, often traditionally depicted as a place of perpetual fire beneath the earth where the wicked are punished after death.". I am not offended but curious as to the title, as though this is absent in Paul's thinking.
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SavedByGrace said:
why should the term "hell" be an issue at all? In the NT is describes "hades", "gehenna" and "tartaroo", depending on what Bible version one uses. The OED defines "hell" as, "A place regarded in various religions as a spiritual realm of evil and suffering, often traditionally depicted as a place of perpetual fire beneath the earth where the wicked are punished after death.". I am not offended but curious as to the title, as though this is absent in Paul's thinking.
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As stated in the OP, the translators have not been consistent with their translation. The one and only time Paul mentioned "Hades" they covered it up with different words, not used to transpose "Hades" elsewhere.

Ever wonder why?
First you need to know where Paul mentioned "Hades".
Some people might actually be interested - imagine that!

Interesting that Rev 20:14 states "And death and hell (Hades) shall be cast into the Lake of Fire: This is the Second Death" - most think Hell is the Lake of Fire.
Big botch up there.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis said:
No Bible translation I could find places the Nordic name "Hell" on the greek word "Hades" where Paul mentioned it once...
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I am not aware of any modern English Bibles that have hell in 1 Corinthians 15:55. However, the following older English Bibles have "Hell, where is thy victory?"

Tyndale, 1526
Coverdale, 1535
Matthew, 1537
Taverner Bible, 1539
Great Bible, 1541

It appears that this changed with the coming of the Geneva New Testament in 1557, which has grave instead of hell. In 1568, the Bishops Bible again has hell, but in 1611, the King James agreed with Geneva, and that trend (as far as I know) has continued to the present in TR/MT-based translations.

Beginning with the 1881 Revised Version, those based on a critical text now have death twice and hell/grave none.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis

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rlvaughn said:
I am not aware of any modern Bible that have hell in 1 Corinthians 15:55. However, the following older English Bibles have "Hell, where is thy victory?"
Tyndale, 1526
Coverdale, 1535
Matthew, 1537
Taverner Bible, 1539
Great Bible, 1541

It appears that this changed with the coming of the Geneva New Testament in 1557, which has grave instead of hell.
In 1568, the Bishops Bible again has hell, but in 1611, the King James agreed with Geneva, and that trend (as far as I know) has continued to the present in TR/MT-based translations.

Beginning with the 1881 Revised Version, those based on a critical text now have death twice and hell/grave none.
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Incredible, I'm glad you showed up with those older translations. Do you know when the word "Hell" was first used?
From my understanding, Hel(l) originates from Norse Mythology and was integrated into Church Theology around the time of the Viking invasions.
 
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MichaelBoryAlis said:
Incredible, I'm glad you showed up with those older translations. Do you know when the word "Hell" was first used?
From my understanding, Hel(l) originates from Norse Mythology and was integrated into Church Theology around the time of the Viking invasions.
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Yes God created His own theology from the Norse Mythology. :Rolleyes
 
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MichaelBoryAlis

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Revmitchell said:
Yes God created His own theology from the Norse Mythology. :Rolleyes
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Interesting how God works isn't it? -
"who works ALL THINGS after the counsel of HIS OWN WILL" - Eph 1:11.

You never know how "God will choose your delusions" - Isaiah 66:4.

Don't ya hate it when you step in the bear trap?
 
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