Where Is God in a Mass Shooting?

[KenH]

Good column by Russell Moore about the mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

"The first thing we must do in the aftermath of this sort of horror is to make sure that we do not take the name of God in vain. After a natural disaster or an act of terror, one will always find someone, often claiming the mantle of Christianity, opining about how this moment was God’s judgment on an individual or a city or a nation for some specified sin. Jesus told us specifically not to do this, after his disciples asked whether a man’s blindness was the result of his or his parents’ sin. Jesus said no to both (Jn. 9:1-12). Those self-appointed prophets who would blame the victims for what befalls them are just that, self-appointed. We should listen to Jesus and to his apostles, not to them. Those killed in a terror attack or in a tsunami or in an epidemic are not more sinful than all of the rest of us.

We live in a fallen world, where awful, incomprehensible things happen."

Where Is God in a Mass Shooting? - Russell Moore

 

[harrelljr99]

We live in a world marred by sin. It is not how God created it. When God created the world it was perfect and man was perfect until sin. God gave Adam dominion, Adam lost; more accurately forfeited dominion of this world to Satan and it has since then been under his dominion. However Jesus The second Adam has gained it back through His sinless life and vicarious death. Thank God we can pray thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven, with certainty it will. Why not now? I don’t know, His way are higher than mine. But I do know he has been long suffering not to come, because he is still striving with men to be saved before he comes and then be too late. Until then we will continue to live in a fallen world, marred by sin, not as God created it, under the control of the prince of darkness.


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[revmwc]

God is watching and yet allowing man to act on his free will. While prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes, Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. then we Jesus prophetic words, Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. How were Noah's days, filled with evil continually. God is there watching and knowing yet not interfering with mankind. But He also made the way for all mankind to be saved. Can He intervene of course will He only when necessary.

 

[Martin Marprelate]

'Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he fell to the ground and worshipped. And he said; "Naked I came from my mother's womb and naked I shall return. The LORD gave and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD."'

 

[Deacon]

Amos 4:6–13 (NIV)

I gave you empty stomachs in every city and lack of bread in every town, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the Lord.

I also withheld rain from you when the harvest was still three months away. I sent rain on one town, but withheld it from another. One field had rain; another had none and dried up.
People staggered from town to town for water but did not get enough to drink, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the Lord.

Many times I struck your gardens and vineyards, destroying them with blight and mildew. Locusts devoured your fig and olive trees, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the Lord.

I sent plagues among you as I did to Egypt. I killed your young men with the sword, along with your captured horses. I filled your nostrils with the stench of your camps, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the Lord.

I overthrew some of you as I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. You were like a burning stick snatched from the fire, yet you have not returned to me,” declares the Lord.

Therefore this is what I will do to you, Israel, and because I will do this to you, Israel, prepare to meet your God.”

He who forms the mountains, who creates the wind, and who reveals his thoughts to mankind, who turns dawn to darkness, and treads on the heights of the earth— the Lord God Almighty is his name.

 

[Billx]

Good column by Russell Moore about the mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

"The first thing we must do in the aftermath of this sort of horror is to make sure that we do not take the name of God in vain. After a natural disaster or an act of terror, one will always find someone, often claiming the mantle of Christianity, opining about how this moment was God’s judgment on an individual or a city or a nation for some specified sin. Jesus told us specifically not to do this, after his disciples asked whether a man’s blindness was the result of his or his parents’ sin. Jesus said no to both (Jn. 9:1-12). Those self-appointed prophets who would blame the victims for what befalls them are just that, self-appointed. We should listen to Jesus and to his apostles, not to them. Those killed in a terror attack or in a tsunami or in an epidemic are not more sinful than all of the rest of us.

We live in a fallen world, where awful, incomprehensible things happen."

Where Is God in a Mass Shooting? - Russell Moore

Our world is filled with evil. God sees exponential growth of sin and this all in harmony with God's continuing process of creation which will come to fruition in the New Jerusalem. A creation with only people who were born in sin and have accepted the gospel. That is Gods new creation. One sans sex, go figure!

 

[Salty]

Here is Pat Robertson's take on the tragedy.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Good column by Russell Moore about the mass murder in Las Vegas on Sunday night.

"The first thing we must do in the aftermath of this sort of horror is to make sure that we do not take the name of God in vain. After a natural disaster or an act of terror, one will always find someone, often claiming the mantle of Christianity, opining about how this moment was God’s judgment on an individual or a city or a nation for some specified sin. Jesus told us specifically not to do this, after his disciples asked whether a man’s blindness was the result of his or his parents’ sin. Jesus said no to both (Jn. 9:1-12). Those self-appointed prophets who would blame the victims for what befalls them are just that, self-appointed. We should listen to Jesus and to his apostles, not to them. Those killed in a terror attack or in a tsunami or in an epidemic are not more sinful than all of the rest of us.

We live in a fallen world, where awful, incomprehensible things happen."

Where Is God in a Mass Shooting? - Russell Moore

Excellent thought. All of these tragedies, hurricanes, earthquakes represent an opportunity for Christians to witness by trying to respond as Jesus would with heartfelt commiseration with the victims and families of the victims and to do whatever we can to help them in Christian love. There will be a time to address what we can do under our earthly government to make the effects of these things less likely. But as the Good Book says,

Romans 12:15-16 King James Version (KJV)
15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

 

[Adonia]

God is in heaven ready to offer complete peace and love to those who are called to Him from this violent evil world. Life is the trial, paradise is not here but in heaven.

 

[Adonia]

Here is Pat Robertson's take on the tragedy.

Oh good grief! How much moronic can this man get?

 

[David Kent]

Where was God during the inquisition?

 

[Salty]

Where was God during the inquisition?

Same place when Job was going thur trials and tribulation.

 

[Calminian]

Where Is God in a Mass Shooting?

Same place God was during the Flood. I think many struggle with this because they really struggle with the first book of the Bible. Once man fell in the Garden, the endgame changed. The goal was no longer about this world, but the world to come, the New Heavens and New Earth.

We need to avoid extremes, and I think Mr. Moore might be going to one extreme to compensate for another. God is grieved by the sins of nations, and does judge them at times for their sins. And while all sins are disqualifying of eternal life, there are some that grieve God more than others. All we have to do is look at the Biblical history of the nations. But it's also true the innocent suffer, and we can't draw a perfect cause/effect correlation between the amount of sin and the amount of suffering. The abortion holocaust illustrates this, perhaps better than anything else.

Tribulation will not end until the world ends. There were mass murders before the Flood, and there will be after. There is also grace. God left us the Proverbs, that we might navigate the world more safely, but ultimately there is no escape, except through Christ, who has prepared our dwelling in the next world.

 

[rsr]

Oh good grief! How much moronic can this man get?

There seems to be no limit. I think dementia is part of it.

 

[Alcott]

Where Is God in a Mass Shooting?

Is he a suspect? I haven't seen him in any video.