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Where is the Gospel that Saves One's Soul Found?
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David Lamb
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It's in the gospels. For example:
“"Those by the wayside are the ones who hear; then the devil comes and takes away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.” (Lu 8:12 NKJV)
“"I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.” (Joh 10:9 NKJV)
It's in Acts:
“"Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."” (Ac 4:12 NKJV)
It's in the epistles. For example, writing to the Christians at Ephesus, Paul reminds them how they had been saved:
“And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised [us] up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.” (Eph 2:1-10 NKJV)
KenH
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The entire Word of God, from Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22:21.
David Lamb
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I agree. I used to have a book (I can't find it now) called "Christ in All the Scriptures."
KenH
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I have a couple of books by Henry Mahan that are entitled, "With New Testament Eyes: Pictures of Christ in the Old Testament".
Also, can be read online here: Henry T. Mahan - INDEX Pic of Christ
atpollard
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I have heard that before, and it sounds ‘pious’ … but it never quite rang true to me. So just selecting a couple of random paragraphs, could you explain “Jesus and the Good News” that saves one’s soul from here:
Numbers 2:10-11 [NKJV]
10 "On the south side [shall be] the standard of the forces with Reuben according to their armies, and the leader of the children of Reuben [shall be] Elizur the son of Shedeur." 11 And his army was numbered at forty-six thousand five hundred.
… or here:
Habakkuk 3:14-15 [NKJV]
14 You thrust through with his own arrows The head of his villages. They came out like a whirlwind to scatter me; Their rejoicing was like feasting on the poor in secret. 15 You walked through the sea with Your horses, Through the heap of great waters.
KenH
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God had the apostle Paul write: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (emphasis mine)
atpollard
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To claim that all scripture is “profitable” is not the same as claiming that all verses point to Jesus Christ. Paul, I agree with. Pious sounding rabble that make unsupported claims, not so much. That is the exact reason that I reject ‘appeals to authority’ that quote ECFs or Luther or Calvin, as if any theologian carried the weight of scripture. Let the argument be measured against the ‘norma normans non normata’ of Scripture.
KenH
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By God's sovereignty, the Israelites had to be a separate people in a separate land to prepare the way for the birth of Christ Jesus. Numbering the people and preparing to conquer Canaan were part of that.
Habakkuk chapter 3 is about the mighty sovereign power of God in bringing the Israelites out of Egypt and into Canaan, a type of the salvation of God's elect by Christ Jesus in bringing them out of spiritual death, or spiritual captivity, into the kingdom of God and all the way to the new heavens and the new earth wherein dwells righteousness.
The key verse in Habakkuk chapter 3 is verse 13, the one just preceding the two verses that you quoted: "Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, Even for salvation with thine anointed." God's anointed is Christ Jesus(the deliverance from Egypt and Joshua leading them into Canaan were Old Testament types of Christ in His delivering God's elect and bringing them ultimately into the new heavens and the new earth):
Hebrews 1:8-9
But unto the Son he saith,
Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
A sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity;
Therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee
With the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Numbers Chapter 2
1 | And Jehovah spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, |
34 | Thus did the children of Israel; according to all that Jehovah commanded Moses, so they encamped by their standards, and so they set forward, every one by their families, according to their fathers` houses. |
Habakkuk Chapter 3 -
2 | O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work in the midst of the years; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy. |
8 | Was Jehovah displeased with the rivers? Was thine anger against the rivers, Or thy wrath against the sea, That thou didst ride upon thy horses, Upon thy chariots of salvation? |
18 | Yet I will rejoice in Jehovah, I will joy in the God of my salvation. |
19 | Jehovah, the Lord, is my strength; And he maketh my feet like hinds` feet, And will make me to walk upon my high places. |
Jessus is Jehovah.
And Jehovah saves:
Habakkuk Chapter 3
13 | Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, For the salvation of thine anointed; Thou woundest the head out of the house of the wicked man, Laying bare the foundation even unto the neck. Selah. |
One can preach Jesus from entire bible, as He is indeed found throughout the canon, as He is the main star of the show, but the actual Gospel itself as we tend to define it would be best taught and illustrated in the NT Epistles themselves
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So the Levitical law would save me?
KenH
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Man can do absolutely nothing to save himself. As my avatar says, Salvation is of the LORD. Jonah 2:9
Salvation is 100% totally of God, not man.
The law did play a part in God's plan to save His elect, chosen before the world began and given to His Son to be their Surety:
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Don't forget 1 Corinthians 15:1-6
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Yes, that is a direct definition of the Gospel, but I prefer Roman chs 1-3, as it goes into the details of 'why we need the Gospel'.
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I just asked because to the question, 'What is the Gospel that saves you answered, "The entire Word of God, from Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22:21."
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I think that's by an Adolf Safir. Not sure if I can buy that approach to hermeneutics.
canadyjd
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Absolutely. All you have to do is keep it perfectly. Of course, no one but Jesus has ever done that.
When the rich young ruler came to Jesus and asked what he must do to enter heaven, Jesus told him to keep the commandments. Jesus didn’t lie, but he was trying to get the man to see his need for a savior.
The OT law reveals sin (where we fall short of God’s expectations) and of our need for a savior.
To take a couple of passages from the OT and demand to know where Jesus is spoken about of misses the truth the OT points to our need for Jesus as Savior.
Peace to you
37818
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Romans 3:19-20, Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
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I hope I didn't do that. I had expressed I thought the clearest portion of Scripture that best explains the Gospel was not in the Gospels or even the OT (excepting Luke 24:27) but in Rom. chaps 1-3.
Luke 24:27 LSB
Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets (OT), He interpreted to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.