I did, and I don't see anything where it is stated it is to be done primarily at home and in private. Scripture for THAT?DHK said:Re-read my post. I gave you plenty of Scripture.
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I did, and I don't see anything where it is stated it is to be done primarily at home and in private. Scripture for THAT?DHK said:Re-read my post. I gave you plenty of Scripture.
Why do you castigate me Bbob? What have I done to you?Brother Bob said:Hbr 10:1¶For the law having a shadow of good things to come, [and] not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
Why don't you study some more DHK, before condemning what I posted, sheesh......
BTW; didn't Jesus teach in the synogogues??????????
BBob,
The example set by Jesus--Mark 1:35webdog said:I did, and I don't see anything where it is stated it is to be done primarily at home and in private. Scripture for THAT?
DHK said:Why do you castigate me Bbob? What have I done to you?
You have made one post in this entire thread, and in that post have simply quoted three verses, one of which has nothing to do with the thread. It is entirely out of context. We are not part of the nation of Israel, are we?
I will throw your question back at you: Why don't you do some study Bro. Bob?
You quoted 3 verses; I gave a rather lengthy post, quoting plenty of Scripture, and explaining what I did--quite a bit more than the pittance that you offered.
Now you offer Hebrews 10:1--again without explanation, and entirely out of context. Is this typical with you?
Yes Jesus taught in a synagogue. So what?
The early believers also met in the catacombs--cemetaries. Does that mean we should? What is your point?
So some study Bob, and bring something intelligent to the conversation--something about the subject of worship.
1. You are right, prayer is not the only type of worship. However our private devotions before God ought to include much more than prayer.standingfirminChrist said:Jesus taught private prayer. But the Word of God also teaches a public prayer as well.
James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
While prayer is one form of worship, it is not the only form of worship in the Word of God.
The psalmist wrote:
Psalms 134:2 Lift up your hands in the sanctuary, and bless the LORD.
and:
Psalms 47:1 <<To the chief Musician, A Psalm for the sons of Korah.>> O clap your hands, all ye people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph.
Were these forms of worship? I would think so! Were they private and at home? It doesn't appear they were.
It sure is a good place to start DHK..........DHK said:1. You are right, prayer is not the only type of worship. However our private devotions before God ought to include much more than prayer.
2. I never said there was NO worship in a church; I said it was not the primary place of worship.
Jesus taught in the synagogues. What synagogues do you teach in? Are you following his example? No. History tells us that there were no buildings set apart for "churches" until about 250 years after the death of the apostles. History proves you wrong. They met in the synagogues until they were kicked out. Then they met in people's homes, open fields, cemetaries, or wherever they could find a place. They were a persecuted people, as many Christians are to this day. The Christians of America, for the most part are soft-bellied, spineless, over-fed, babied bunch of believers that would cry foul if any type of persecution ever hit them. They don't know what it means to be persecuted for their faith.Brother Bob said:I gave you scripture, you always say "out of context". Well, I don't believe you. Jesus taught in the synagogues and we follow His example. Take it or leave it. Your attack on me was unmerited.
They don't have to say what happens in the church. It is a fact that our primary place of worship is at home or within ourselves.You may have posted a few scriptures, but they do not say everything that happens in the church. I see you completely overlook my scripture that I gave, but thats ok. As I said, go study before jumping.
So, it did start in the synagogues according to this post of yours and was called the House of the Lord. It may shock you, but we still call our church the Lord's house. I had you youths break in and have sex in the house. You think that did not disturb me terrible, being I consider it the Lord's house. Maybe not you, but it sure bothered me.DHK said:Jesus taught in the synagogues. What synagogues do you teach in? Are you following his example? No. History tells us that there were no buildings set apart for "churches" until about 250 years after the death of the apostles. History proves you wrong. They met in the synagogues until they were kicked out. Then they met in people's homes, open fields, cemetaries, or wherever they could find a place. They were a persecuted people, as many Christians are to this day. The Christians of America, for the most part are soft-bellied, spineless, over-fed, babied bunch of believers that would cry foul if any type of persecution ever hit them. They don't know what it means to be persecuted for their faith.
They don't have to say what happens in the church. It is a fact that our primary place of worship is at home or within ourselves.
--Pray without ceasing.
--Give thanks always.
--Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say rejoice.
--Meditate (in the Word) day and night.
It doesn't say just to do these things in a church building. What kind of Christianity do you have. I thank God that my Christianity is 24/7 and not confined to four walls of a church building. I feel sorry for you.
DHK said:Jesus taught in the synagogues. What synagogues do you teach in? Are you following his example? No. History tells us that there were no buildings set apart for "churches" until about 250 years after the death of the apostles. History proves you wrong. They met in the synagogues until they were kicked out. Then they met in people's homes, open fields, cemetaries, or wherever they could find a place. They were a persecuted people, as many Christians are to this day. The Christians of America, for the most part are soft-bellied, spineless, over-fed, babied bunch of believers that would cry foul if any type of persecution ever hit them. They don't know what it means to be persecuted for their faith.
They don't have to say what happens in the church. It is a fact that our primary place of worship is at home or within ourselves.
--Pray without ceasing.
--Give thanks always.
--Rejoice in the Lord always, and again I say rejoice.
--Meditate (in the Word) day and night.
It doesn't say just to do these things in a church building. What kind of Christianity do you have. I thank God that my Christianity is 24/7 and not confined to four walls of a church building. I feel sorry for you.
Revmitchell said:It appears some are taking DHK's words to diminish corporate worship. To many people are only worshiping at corporate times. Worship needs to be a daily occurrence and not just preached as a corporate Sunday mandate.
This still doesn't answer the claim it is to be done primarily at home or in private.DHK said:The example set by Jesus--Mark 1:35
The statement that our bodies are now the Temple; the place of worship, not a building. (1Cor.6:19,20)
The command of Jesus to worship in private (Mat.6:6,7)
Revmitchell said:It appears some are taking DHK's words to diminish corporate worship. To many people are only worshiping at corporate times. Worship needs to be a daily occurrence and not just preached as a corporate Sunday mandate.
You must either have a very narrow definition of worship or a very poor relationship with Jesus Christ.webdog said:This still doesn't answer the claim it is to be done primarily at home or in private.
Your ad hominems are uncalled for...and has been reported. It's about time a BB administrator or moderator takes a stand against your very un-Christ like attitude.DHK said:You must either have a very narrow definition of worship or a very poor relationship with Jesus Christ.
Worship: Declaring the worrth of. Adoration.
Remember the greater part of our "adoration of God" is not in church.
The greater part of our service in church is taken up with a sermon--the teaching and preaching of God's Word, and so it should be.
Now to Scripture:
Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
Psalms 1:1-2 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
1 Thessalonians 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1 Thessalonians 5:16 Rejoice evermore.
1 Thessalonians 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
The above is worship. It is not confined to the four walls of a church. It is to be done always, 24/7. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Ghost (1Cor.6:19,20), the primary place of worship. God dwells in them, not in the Temple of the OT, and not in a building built by man. He dwells in the believer who is to worship God in Spirit. Tell me: Are you alone a greater percentage of the day, or are you in a church building a greater part of the day gathered together with believers? Answer that question honestly and you will answer your own question.
...but it is confined to the four walls of our homes ?!?The above is worship. It is not confined to the four walls of a church.
Give thanks to the Lord alwayswebdog said:Your ad hominems are uncalled for...and has been reported. It's about time a BB administrator or moderator takes a stand against your very un-Christ like attitude.
I know what worship is. I didn't state it is to be done PRIMARILY at home...you did. And YET you supply NO Scripture stating such. I didn't state it has to occur between 4 walls...yet you have by bringing up our homes, which ironically have four walls.
Utter dishonesty.Worship comes from the temple of my body. The primary "place" of worship is not from a church building which you continue to assert.
No it isn't. Near the beginning of the thread this is your entire post:webdog said:Utter dishonesty.
I have continually called you out on YOUR assertation it is PRIMARILY done in the home. I believe worship is to happen continuously, at home, at church, at work...wherever. YOU on the other hand have continually argued for a specific place, privately or at home. Scripture does NOT state it is to be done "primarily" in private or in the home. Worship is to be done everywhere and anywhere.
To most, that indicates that one should worship in a church.Hebrews 10
24 And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works,
25 not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near.
standingfirminChrist said:Amen! Certainly one can worship the Lord at home or in Church. God desires communication from His Sheep. He desires them to fellowship with Him on a daily basis; seeking His will and guidance for their lives.
God inhabits the praises of His people where'er they be.