Where was Jesus for 3 days?

[37818]

Paradise isn't in the air-it's in another 'dimension'. And there's no Scripture saying paradise was moved to heaven. And hades isn't yet cast into the LOF.

Your explaination explains nothing. Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." Jesus' soul was not left in Hades, Acts of the Apostles 2:31-37. Jesus lead those said to be in captivity at His ascension, Ephesians 4:8. Jesus entered Heaven once and for all to be mediator until is second appearing, Hebrews 9:12, Hebrews 9:24, Hebrews 9:28. The Apostle Paul identified Paradise to be in the third heaven, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3.

 

[timtofly]

Paradise isn't in the air-it's in another 'dimension'. And there's no Scripture saying paradise was moved to heaven. And hades isn't yet cast into the LOF.

The lake of fire is not another dimension nor is Paradise. All of creation is fully physical and spiritual at the same time. We are spiritually blind. We cannot "see" this so called other "dimension". It is just as physical as what we can see though. We are just spiritually blind. And God demands it stay that way, until the opening of the 6th seal in Revelation 6. At that time all living humanity will have their eyes opened to the whole of creation. No one will have an excuse, nor be in "darkness" or blinded to that Truth. The dead already know.

 

[robycop3]

Your explaination explains nothing. Jesus said to the thief on the cross, "To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." Jesus' soul was not left in Hades, Acts of the Apostles 2:31-37. Jesus lead those said to be in captivity at His ascension, Ephesians 4:8. Jesus entered Heaven once and for all to be mediator until is second appearing, Hebrews 9:12, Hebrews 9:24, Hebrews 9:28. The Apostle Paul identified Paradise to be in the third heaven, 2 Corinthians 12:2-3.

Jesus was in paradise 3 days & nights, then was resurrected, & after 40 more days on earth, He ascended to heaven, not paradise again. paradise is not heaven, but is part of hades. After hades is emptied, it'll be cast into the LOF.

 

[robycop3]

The lake of fire is not another dimension nor is Paradise. All of creation is fully physical and spiritual at the same time. We are spiritually blind. We cannot "see" this so called other "dimension". It is just as physical as what we can see though. We are just spiritually blind. And God demands it stay that way, until the opening of the 6th seal in Revelation 6. At that time all living humanity will have their eyes opened to the whole of creation. No one will have an excuse, nor be in "darkness" or blinded to that Truth. The dead already know.

The spirit world is not in this "dimension". We can't sense it. It may be near; it may be far away. However, God can cross it instantly. And Jesus is SPIRITUALLY here whenever/wherever 2 or more are gathered in His name.

Only GOD (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) can freely move between the spirit world & ours.

 

[timtofly]

The spirit world is not in this "dimension". We can't sense it. It may be near; it may be far away. However, God can cross it instantly. And Jesus is SPIRITUALLY here whenever/wherever 2 or more are gathered in His name.

Only GOD (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) can freely move between the spirit world & ours.

There are only 3 dimensions and time. All that is physical and spiritual exist equally in this 3 dimensions of reality. Creation only has a finite time of 8000 years. That is the breadth of God’s love. There are many beings that move unseen throughout this cube of reality. We can only see on the surface of this earth, what is physical. We cannot see any of the spiritual, and it is not another dimension. That is science fiction. The fact of the matter is that we are spiritually blind, and that is it. Our blindness is not another dimension. It is a physical phenomenon that God allowed us to be. One young man was allowed to see in 2 Kings 6:16-18.

16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.

17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

 

[37818]

Jesus was in paradise 3 days & nights, then was resurrected, & after 40 more days on earth, He ascended to heaven, not paradise again. paradise is not heaven, but is part of hades. After hades is emptied, it'll be cast into the LOF.

So then are you saying the Apostle Paul lied? 2 Corinthians 12:2-4? ". . . caught up to the third heaven. . . . caught up into paradise, . . ."

 

[robycop3]

So then are you saying the Apostle Paul lied? 2 Corinthians 12:2-4? ". . . caught up to the third heaven. . . . caught up into paradise, . . ."

The "3rd heaven" can be anywhere in the spirit world; after all, Paul didn't exactly know his way around that world. But he evidently knew he was in paradise, not God's home we call heaven.

 

[robycop3]

There are only 3 dimensions and time. All that is physical and spiritual exist equally in this 3 dimensions of reality. Creation only has a finite time of 8000 years. That is the breadth of God’s love. There are many beings that move unseen throughout this cube of reality. We can only see on the surface of this earth, what is physical. We cannot see any of the spiritual, and it is not another dimension. That is science fiction. The fact of the matter is that we are spiritually blind, and that is it. Our blindness is not another dimension. It is a physical phenomenon that God allowed us to be. One young man was allowed to see in 2 Kings 6:16-18.

16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.

17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Lord, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the Lord opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.

18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the Lord, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.

We cannot sense anything in the spirit world, and it IS in another "dimension". Only GOD can cause us to sense it.

 

[timtofly]

We cannot sense anything in the spirit world, and it IS in another "dimension". Only GOD can cause us to sense it.

There is no "sensing" it. There is only seeing it. It is not another dimension, because that is just Satan talking nonsense. Yes, sight is one of the 5 senses, but you are mixing the occult into God's Word, and God forbids that practice.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

The false belief Jesus was in hell 3 days came from the KJV's mistranslation of hades as 'hell'.

Here are the "guilty" verses:

Acts 2:27Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Acts 2:31He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

In both verses, the KJV incorrectly renders 'hades' as 'hell'. I believe that's where the false doctrine concerning Jesus came from.

Jesus Himself confirms He was in hades in this verse:

Luke 23:43And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise.”

We know hades is divided into "torments" and "paradise" from Jesus' parable of the rich man & the beggar Lazarus, so there should be no doubt where Jesus was between His death & resurrection.

No, in your perverted rush to trash the KJV....
You (who have zilch, zero, nada) knowledge of either Greek nor Hebrew have failed to understand the meaning of either term.

Granted the KJV does poorly translate here.....but you wouldn't know why.

"Hades" is not divided into places of torments and a paradise....

That idea is stupid and unbiblical.
You have conjured that idea out of concession to weird pagan philosophies not found in Scripture, You assumed it was probably true because you thought you could attack the KJV with it (you can't really as most English translations can't rightly translate it).
Thus, you begin proclaiming with zilch knowledge of any Biblical language how a word should be translated.

Here's what you don't know:

There IS no good equivalent English wore for either term. No English Bible could get it correct if they used any English word.
English didn't suffer from the same assumptions of the fate of the dead that either the Hebrews or Greeks had.
Only someone with no knowledge would seek for a perfect or good English translation.

You do not now, nor ever have had a clue what you are talking about.

 

[HeirofSalvation]

We cannot sense anything in the spirit world, and it IS in another "dimension". Only GOD can cause us to sense it.

What is this???
What the sack of potatoes is the "spirit world"?
What does "another dimension" mean?
I know what it means, it means...…"something you can't question be about because it's another 'dimension' ")
How often do you invent such spurious ideas when you have no answer?

 

[robycop3]

No, in your perverted rush to trash the KJV....
You (who have zilch, zero, nada) knowledge of either Greek nor Hebrew have failed to understand the meaning of either term.

Granted the KJV does poorly translate here.....but you wouldn't know why.

"Hades" is not divided into places of torments and a paradise....

That idea is stupid and unbiblical.
You have conjured that idea out of concession to weird pagan philosophies not found in Scripture, You assumed it was probably true because you thought you could attack the KJV with it (you can't really as most English translations can't rightly translate it).
Thus, you begin proclaiming with zilch knowledge of any Biblical language how a word should be translated.

Here's what you don't know:

There IS no good equivalent English wore for either term. No English Bible could get it correct if they used any English word.
English didn't suffer from the same assumptions of the fate of the dead that either the Hebrews or Greeks had.
Only someone with no knowledge would seek for a perfect or good English translation.

You do not now, nor ever have had a clue what you are talking about.

I think I'm 'WAY aheada YOU.

In Jesus' parable of the rich man & the beggar Lazarus, He plainly showed the two areas of hades, even mentioning there's a great gulf between them. You must believe Jesus' parable is based upon some make-believe world He invented.

Several times, Scripture mentions God didn't leave Jesus' spirit in hades. with Acts 2:27 being an example, plus we have Jesus telling the repentant thief in the cross that on that day he wouls be with Jesus in PARADISE. So, definitely, paradise is part of hades.

Loox as if YOU don't know what you're talking about, as you can't use any Scripture to support your blather. Thus, you make stupid & baseless accusations.

 

[robycop3]

What is this???
What the sack of potatoes is the "spirit world"?
What does "another dimension" mean?
I know what it means, it means...…"something you can't question be about because it's another 'dimension' ")
How often do you invent such spurious ideas when you have no answer?

Can YOU provide a better answer, or simply spout more blather ?

 

[37818]

"Hades" is not divided into places of torments and a paradise....

That idea is stupid and unbiblical.

In the Abraham, rich man narrative Abraham explained to the rich man that Moses wrote of that lower place where the rich man was in a flame. Abraham was in an upper place with Lazarus said to be at Abraham's side. Luke 16:19-31. ". . . Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. . . ." God said to Moses, ". . . For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, . . ." Of which the prophet David wrote in a Psalm, ". . . For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell. . . ."

 

[robycop3]

And, in Jesus' parable, the rich man was in 'torments' in hades.That's the word Jesus used. (Mistranslated 'hell' in the KJV & a few other versions) And Acts 2:27, speaking of Jesus says God would not leave His soul in hades. There you are; the 2 areas of hades !

 

[Derf B]

I think I'm 'WAY aheada YOU.

In Jesus' parable of the rich man & the beggar Lazarus, He plainly showed the two areas of hades, even mentioning there's a great gulf between them. You must believe Jesus' parable is based upon some make-believe world He invented.

The story never says Lazarus was in or went to Hades. only the rich man. The great gulf could be the border/ boundary of Hades. It's an assumption to say Lazarus and Abraham were in Hades. It might be a valid assumption, but an assumption none-the-less.

 

[robycop3]

The question seemstabee "Where was Jesus for 3 days after he died?" He Himself said He'd be in PARADISE.Acts 2:27 says God would not leave His spirit in hades. Therefore, paradise is in hades. There should be no doubting this, as it's in Scripture, & Scripture is aleays right.

 

[Derf B]

The question seemstabee "Where was Jesus for 3 days after he died?" He Himself said He'd be in PARADISE.Acts 2:27 says God would not leave His spirit in hades. Therefore, paradise is in hades. There should be no doubting this, as it's in Scripture, & Scripture is aleays right.

. I’m not doubting the scripture, just the interpretation. For instance, what if the comma, not in the Greek, were moved. Then it says,
Luke 23:43 And he said to him, “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.”

 

[robycop3]

The story never says Lazarus was in or went to Hades. only the rich man. The great gulf could be the border/ boundary of Hades. It's an assumption to say Lazarus and Abraham were in Hades. It might be a valid assumption, but an assumption none-the-less.

Given Acts 2;27, it's a quite-valid assumption.

 

[robycop3]

. I’m not doubting the scripture, just the interpretation. For instance, what if the comma, not in the Greek, were moved. Then it says,
Luke 23:43 And he said to him, “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.”

Same thing. Jesus knew both He & the thief would die that day. If the thief was a Jew, he knew it as well, as he'd know the Jewish religious leaders wouldn't want them to be on the crosses when the special Sabbath began.