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Which is more reliable science or the Bible?

blackbird

Active Member
Originally posted by Paul of Eugene:
Originally posted by Craigbythesea:
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The revelation through nature has an advantage over the revelation through the Bible in that we can verify our findings through the scientific method. Theology is left, unfortunately, with fewer options for deciding things. Hence the continued discussions over whether or not to ordain women, consider free will to be possible, have the King James version only, and so forth and so forth.

We just don't have any experiments to perform to decide between these issues.
We can't disect truth----truth disects us!!! I've never seen a scientific lab with any instrument that can come close to a sharp two edged sword, have you----yet the Blbie states that Scripture is sharper than any two edged sword---something you just don't see in a science lab!!! theory verses Truth----like Jannes and Jambres' snakes verses Moses'!!! All one has to do is set theory next to truth and see which one stands the test of eternity!!! theory will melt like wax in the hot Mississippi sun next to truth!!!
 

Craigbythesea

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Originally posted by blackbird:
Which is more reliable---a very extensive knowledgable interpretation of Genesis or a very extensive knowledge of evolutionary biology----the two just don't "jive" together---so one of um is gonna have to be washed out of the milk parlor with the rest of the manure---which will it be???
I could reply by posting that you have neither a very extensive knowledge of the facts pertinent to the interpretation of Genesis nor a very extensive knowledge of evolutionary biology, but I have both; but since that might make me sound both rude and pretentious, I should perhaps instead reply by posting that your interpretation of Genesis makes a mockery of both God and Bible, and your knowledge of evolutionary biology is comparable to that of an intellectually challenged baboon suffering from the late stages of dementia. But I will not reply by posting that either—I will simply post that I disagree with you.

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Craigbythesea

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Blackbird wrote,

We can't disect truth----truth disects us!!! I've never seen a scientific lab with any instrument that can come close to a sharp two edged sword, have you----yet the Blbie states that Scripture is sharper than any two edged sword---something you just don't see in a science lab!!! theory verses Truth----like Jannes and Jambres' snakes verses Moses'!!! All one has to do is set theory next to truth and see which one stands the test of eternity!!! theory will melt like wax in the hot Mississippi sun next to truth!!!
What is truth? Is truth an absurdly naïve and ridiculous interpretation of Genesis? I don’t think so. Has God, in His infinite wisdom, ordained that men learn His truths about His creation through His gift to us of science? I think so.

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blackbird

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Originally posted by Craigbythesea:
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Which is more reliable---a very extensive knowledgable interpretation of Genesis or a very extensive knowledge of evolutionary biology----the two just don't "jive" together---so one of um is gonna have to be washed out of the milk parlor with the rest of the manure---which will it be???
I could reply by posting that you have neither a very extensive knowledge of the facts pertinent to the interpretation of Genesis nor a very extensive knowledge of evolutionary biology, but I have both; but since that might make me sound both rude and pretentious, I should perhaps instead reply by posting that your interpretation of Genesis makes a mockery of both God and Bible, and your knowledge of evolutionary biology is comparable to that of an intellectually challenged baboon suffering from the late stages of dementia. But I will not reply by posting that either—I will simply post that I disagree with you.

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</font>[/QUOTE]Tell me----Romans 1:22??? Does this verse teach spiritual evolution for those who profess themselves to be something they're really not so that they can become something they really are???

Just wondering!!!
 

Plain Old Bill

New Member
You fine Christian gentlemen may have noticed countrygirl has only 3 posts on the board.Why don't you show a little love and give her some time to find her way around here.A little generosity never hurt anyone.
 

Craigbythesea

Well-Known Member
Blackbird wrote,

Tell me----Romans 1:22??? Does this verse teach spiritual evolution for those who profess themselves to be something they're really not so that they can become something they really are???

Just wondering!!!
No, it does not.

Rom. 1:22. Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23. and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. (NASB, 1995)

Rom. 1:22-23 is describing those persons who, while professing to be wise, have in reality become fools and have denied the one and only true God, and have instead worshipped images of men or other creations of God.

Perhaps there is a verse in Romans, however, that you should think about,

Rom. 12:3. For through the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think more highly of himself than he ought to think; but to think so as to have sound judgment, as God has allotted to each a measure of faith.

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Craigbythesea

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Originally posted by Plain Old Bill:
You fine Christian gentlemen may have noticed countrygirl has only 3 posts on the board.Why don't you show a little love and give her some time to find her way around here.A little generosity never hurt anyone.
I believe that we have done that.

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Petrel

New Member
Originally posted by Plain Old Bill:
You fine Christian gentlemen may have noticed countrygirl has only 3 posts on the board.Why don't you show a little love and give her some time to find her way around here.A little generosity never hurt anyone.
You're absolutely right--I should lull her into a false sense of security first!
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All joking aside, welcome to the board, CountrygirllovesJesus05. I sincerely hope you like it here!
 

Craigbythesea

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Which is more reliable—science or the Bible?

A few thoughts to ponder,

If the doctrine of once saved always saved is a true doctrine, the Bible was so poorly written that no one was able to understand the doctrine of salvation for 1500 years!

If the doctrine of the pre-trib rapture is a true doctrine, the Bible was so poorly written that no one was able to understand the doctrine of the second coming until 1826!

When you chose your family physician, did you choose him on the basis of his knowledge of the Bible—or on the basis of his knowledge of science?
 

Craigbythesea

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Which is more reliable—science or the Bible?

Which is more reliable—a hammer or a saw? Each tool has it own purposes and functions, and a good carpenter is knowledgeable about both and is skillful in the use of both. Anyone who would attempt to build a house without the proper use of both a hammer and a saw is going to run into serious difficulty, but such a person is likely to be so foolish that he is not even aware of the difficulty.

Eph. 2:19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21. In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22. In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. (KJV)

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Paul of Eugene

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Originally posted by AntennaFarmer:
When I made that my "repetition" comment I knew it would draw a hasty response from someone on your side. I was wrong to do that. It was a cheap jab. So to you Brother Paul and Brother Petrel (and others as well), I apologize
AF thou art not far from the kingdom of heaven.

personally I view participation in these discussions as a way to practice the restrained reply. Sometimes I do better and sometimes I don't quite measure up.

By "restrained reply" I mean not to withold any valid debating points but to maintain my Christian demeanor. It's good to practice that skill on line and probably - some day - it will be necessary to put the lessons learned to use in person. Arguments can be used of the devil to split churches. I don't want to ever be a part of that happening.
 

just-want-peace

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By "restrained reply" I mean not to withold any valid debating points but to maintain my Christian demeanor.
I resemble that remark!
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Seriously, I agree that this can be a major problem.

One of the plus'es for me is that I'm such a slow typer, that I have a little time to cool down before hitting the "add reply" button.

I don't want to ever be a part of that happening.
A double AMEN to this point!!!!!
 

blackbird

Active Member
Originally posted by Craigbythesea:
Which is more reliable—science or the Bible?

Which is more reliable—a hammer or a saw? Each tool has it own purposes and functions, and a good carpenter is knowledgeable about both and is skillful in the use of both. Anyone who would attempt to build a house without the proper use of both a hammer and a saw is going to run into serious difficulty, but such a person is likely to be so foolish that he is not even aware of the difficulty.

Eph. 2:19. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20. And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21. In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22. In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. (KJV)

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This building of the "habitation of God through the Spirit" is accomplished through fervent study and application of the infallable, inerrant, inspired Scriptures---IOW---with the blueprint from Above----not from a biology book from below!!!
 

Craigbythesea

Well-Known Member
Blackbird wrote,

This building of the "habitation of God through the Spirit" is accomplished through fervent study and application of the infallable, inerrant, inspired Scriptures---IOW---with the blueprint from Above----not from a biology book from below!!!
Did you miss my analogy? Did you notice that I quoted here from the KJV because of its specific choice of words?

The Bible does not say that the Book of Genesis is “infallable [correctly spelled “infallible”], inerrant, inspired Scriptures.” That is a doctrine of men. Personally, I choose to believe what the Bible says.

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