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saturneptune

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My apologies that you didn't have that bit of info. :1_grouphug: I will always vote. I just don't think I have to settle on someone with whose core values I don't believe just because the powers that be anoint him as a party's candidate.
Zaac, here is a way it would be acceptable to vote for Romney. Since the national debt is approaching 14 trillion, after Romney is elected, he can commission Indiana Jones to dig up the golden leaves. After verifying their authenticity, the government could sell them on the open market for 15 trillion, and we could start over with a small surplus.

We could then get a medium to call Joseph Smith and Brigham Young from the dead, and they could summon the Angel Macaroni. Macaroni could then give every household in America a new home from heaven patterned after the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City. It would come with two cars, a swimming pool, and three wives. Romney would then appoint Donne Osmond Secretary of the Treasury to keep the budget in balance.

We could get rid of Hollywood because the Mormon Tabernacle Choir could go on tour to provide entertainment.

We all live happily ever after. Amen.
 

Zaac

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Zaac, here is a way it would be acceptable to vote for Romney. Since the national debt is approaching 14 trillion, after Romney is elected, he can commission Indiana Jones to dig up the golden leaves. After verifying their authenticity, the government could sell them on the open market for 15 trillion, and we could start over with a small surplus.

We could then get a medium to call Joseph Smith and Brigham Young from the dead, and they could summon the Angel Macaroni. Macaroni could then give every household in America a new home from heaven patterned after the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City. It would come with two cars, a swimming pool, and three wives. Romney would then appoint Donne Osmond Secretary of the Treasury to keep the budget in balance.

We could get rid of Hollywood because the Mormon Tabernacle Choir could go on tour to provide entertainment.

We all live happily ever after. Amen.

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Don

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Zaac, here is a way it would be acceptable to vote for Romney. Since the national debt is approaching 14 trillion, after Romney is elected, he can commission Indiana Jones to dig up the golden leaves. After verifying their authenticity, the government could sell them on the open market for 15 trillion, and we could start over with a small surplus.

We could then get a medium to call Joseph Smith and Brigham Young from the dead, and they could summon the Angel Macaroni. Macaroni could then give every household in America a new home from heaven patterned after the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City. It would come with two cars, a swimming pool, and three wives. Romney would then appoint Donne Osmond Secretary of the Treasury to keep the budget in balance.

We could get rid of Hollywood because the Mormon Tabernacle Choir could go on tour to provide entertainment.

We all live happily ever after. Amen.
Now THAT was funny.
 

Zaac

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It's the mathematics of the situation, not an opinion thing. If A has 48 votes, B has 48 votes, and C has 1 vote; then there are three votes left, including yours...two of you vote for C, and the remaining person votes for A. Guess who wins?

You're under the impression that I care more about who wins an election than I care about having a right witness for Christ.

Here's another math situation for you.

If A has 48 votes, B has 48 votes, and C has 1 vote; then there is one vote left, mine and I vote for C, who wins?

As I've said repeatedly, we're dealing with darkness vs. darkness. There's no mathematical picture or any other picture that anyone can paint that will make me vote for either one of the anti-Christs.

Simple mathematics. Nothing about opinions at all. Sorry you feel like its such silliness.

It is silliness. Folks act like they are saving the country by voting for Romney and getting Obama out of office. This country needs JESUS not Romney. But try telling the country they need Jesus after supporting a candidate who worships a god that ain't Jesus.

Nope. My ability to honorably witness for Christ means infinitely more to me than getting Obama out of office.

Obama being in or out of office does not affect my ability to share the Gospel.

Me voting for a candidate who worships a false god would affect that ability.


Actually, you can't definitively say that.

Sure I can.

In reality, you're right; your one vote probably won't make that much of a difference.

That's why I said that I could say it.

But when combined with all the others who vote like you, it makes a big difference.

And if every Christian aligned themselves with Christ and the things HE loves, it would make a big difference.

If all the folks who voted for Obama who called themselves Christians wouldn't vote for him, it would make a big difference.

But we're not talking baout combined votes. We were talking about MY vote.:smilewinkgrin:


I don't support Romney. If it were Herman Cain, or Ron Paul, or Tim Pawlenty, I'd be voting for them, because I'm casting my vote against what I perceive to be the bigger threat to our country.

Your vote for Romney is gonna be counted on election night as FOR Romney. Now you can mince words and say that's not support, but that's support.

You perceive Obama to be a bigger threat than Romney for the next few years of the country. I perceive Christians endorsing the worshiper of a false god as being far more detrimental to the eternity of those in the country.

So you worry about the here and now. I'm looking at eternity.:thumbsup:

If he gets elected, I'll be praying that Romney meets Christ and is saved--just like I do for Obama.

So the god he serves becomes an issue AFTER Obama is defeated? Have you prayed that he meets Jesus Christ before getting elected?

I just envision the atheists and the agnostics and the pluralists going "why are you trying to talk to me about this Jesus Christ? You didn't have a problem supporting a candidate for President who worships a god that ain't yours, so why should I believe you when you say that I need your God?"


Fine. My witness for Christ isn't affected by who I vote against. I'll still be witnessing to the unsaved, and I'll still have a home in heaven.

Yes, and if they ever ask you who you voted for, please explain to them how you desire that they accept your God for salvation, but you endorsed a man for President who does not.:thumbsup:
 

carpro

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They are against Christ so they are anti-Christs.:thumbsup:

As expected.

You won't find a perfect "Christian" candidate. Can't find one, but will berate other Christians for supporting or voting for less than perfect men. You offer no alternative choices, just judgemental criticism.

Both candidates claim to be Christian. Personally I don't believe either one is. But, unlike you, I'm not in the business of setting myself up as God and condemning any Christian who votes for one or the other based on their perception of their Christianity. I will be critical only of their political choices.

It looks like one of them will be president, whether I like it or not. I'm voting for the one I believe will do the least damage to our nation, and our values as a nation. On issues we Christians supposedly really care about, we know Obama will do all the damage he can in those areas. We don't know that about Romney, but we do know he can't be any worse.

You can't say the same. If you really care at all. Caring who is the president doesn't appear to be your real goal here.

I believe you to be (snip) looking for a perfect Christian candidate among sinful men. Either that, or you are just another troll looking for a chance to criticize and judge Chrisitans over one pretense or another. It just happens to be politics in this particular forum. It would be something else in another.
 
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Don

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So the god he serves becomes an issue AFTER Obama is defeated? Have you prayed that he meets Jesus Christ before getting elected?
I admit my wording confused you; I pray for all our elected leaders, and our potential ones.

I just envision the atheists and the agnostics and the pluralists going "why are you trying to talk to me about this Jesus Christ? You didn't have a problem supporting a candidate for President who worships a god that ain't yours, so why should I believe you when you say that I need your God?"
Okay, now THAT'S just silliness. I can't remember a single time where I started a conversation with "I voted for so-and-so; now, let me tell you about Jesus." Or, "let me tell you about Jesus; okay, we've done that for a while, so let's talk about who I voted for last election."

Yes, and if they ever ask you who you voted for, please explain to them how you desire that they accept your God for salvation, but you endorsed a man for President who does not.:thumbsup:
How about I explain to them that we're all in need of a savior?

And by the way: last time I checked, He was your God, too. :thumbsup:
 
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Zaac

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As expected.

You won't find a perfect "Christian" candidate.

Didn't say that I was looking for one.

Can't find one, but will berate other Christians for supporting or voting for less than perfect men. You offer no alternative choices, just judgemental criticism.

I offer Christ crucified and resurrected. So how about pointing folks to him instead of men who reject Him?

Both candidates claim to be Christian. Personally I don't believe either one is. But, unlike you, I'm not in the business of setting myself up as God and condemning any Christian who votes for one or the other based on their perception of their Christianity. I will be critical only of their political choices.

Good for you. I'm gonna righteously judge by their actions.

It looks like one of them will be president, whether I like it or not. I'm voting for the one I believe will do the least damage to our nation, and our values as a nation.

Again good for you. Christians supporting that which is against Christ will do far more damage to the nation than either of those two men.

On issues we Christians supposedly really care about, we know Obama will do all the damage he can in those areas. We don't know that about Romney, but we do know he can't be any worse.

So you Christians care more about those "issues" than you do about pointing the lost to Christ?

You can't say the same. If you really care at all. Caring who is the president doesn't appear to be your real goal here.

I'm about Christ first and last. The President will be who the President will be. Presidents come and go. But a ruined Christian witness is hard to restore.

And Christians are doing an awfully god job at making the same excuses to support this man that homosexuals make to justify their sexual acts.

I believe you to be a sanctimonious holier than thou blowhard looking for a perfect Christian candidate among sinful men.

Ooo. This might qualify as one of those veiled attacks y'all have accused me of.


Either that, or you are just another troll looking for a chance to criticize and judge Chrisitans over one pretense or another. It just happens to be politics in this particular forum. It would be something else in another.

Yep making the same excuses that Christians have often berated others for making to justify the decisions they make.
 

Zaac

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How about I explain to them that we're all in need of a savior?

And by the way: last time I checked, He was your God, too. :thumbsup:

So are they not in need of a Savior while Christians are endorsing a man who has chosen a god other than the ONE Who saves?
 

carpro

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All of which validates my assessment. To ignore you go, with other assorted trolls.:wavey:

All of which were eventually banned.
 
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Don

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So are they not in need of a Savior while Christians are endorsing a man who has chosen a god other than the ONE Who saves?

My friend, THAT is the epitome of silliness. Why would I point them towards any man when I'm talking to them about Christ? If I were to even discuss politics while witnessing to them, it would be to point out that while we're in these pathetic fleshly forms on this rotten corrupted earth, we have to deal with the trials and tribulations and travesties before us; but one day our reward will make it all worthwhile.
 
Zaac, here is a way it would be acceptable to vote for Romney. Since the national debt is approaching 14 trillion, after Romney is elected, he can commission Indiana Jones to dig up the golden leaves. After verifying their authenticity, the government could sell them on the open market for 15 trillion, and we could start over with a small surplus.

We could then get a medium to call Joseph Smith and Brigham Young from the dead, and they could summon the Angel Macaroni. Macaroni could then give every household in America a new home from heaven patterned after the Mormon Temple in Salt Lake City. It would come with two cars, a swimming pool, and three wives. Romney would then appoint Donne Osmond Secretary of the Treasury to keep the budget in balance.

We could get rid of Hollywood because the Mormon Tabernacle Choir could go on tour to provide entertainment.

We all live happily ever after. Amen.

YOU HERETIC!! I would put Marie in over Donnie in a heartbeat! She's purtier to look at....:laugh:
 

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