Whistleblowers, Sources & Discernment

[JonC]

Why since you're using your time here to poke I will take a little more of your time to tell you partially why this here is happening.

A while back I posted an opinion about what I thought certain people's tactics were about getting people to support their vax policies, by turning them against

those who chose not to take the vax.

This is the thread:

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/the-unvaxed-are-lice-has-a-precedent.121834/#post-2730050

Jon didn't like it and did not accept my explanation of why I posted it.

Since then we sort of have been at each other.

I suppose you still may be on his side but since that lice post there have been many edits of my other posts and not only by Jon.

I consider my theological beliefs to be conservative, that is, not heretical.

But I think we on this forum have a right to express our opinions about current events without being bullied, made fun of, or called liars, even if nicely.

I cannot even pm Jon, and have been told take up any beefs with the admin, but I will not since I witnessed them making fun of me when they did not think I was there.

I know what I am doing, more or less, but they (and you) don't really understand it so they attack.

Not trolling but being indirectly blunt.

I do not agree with Jon, his sources, or his tactics.

Anybody can pm Jon. At one time my privacy settings did not allow everyone to send me a pm. But that was changed last week at the request of Squire so as to allow any member to use the feature. (I previously used it more for fellowship, less for moderation).

I am interested in the people and qualifications of those that you consider to be experts. That is why I asked.

I provided a list of a few experts I believe are an authority in the area of viruses & vaccines.

I have been told repeatedly that "experts" disagree with covid vaccinations. But anytime I ask for these experts and their qualifications I get gibberish.

It is not that people do not understand what you are saying (when you post coherently), but I am just asking who you consider knowledgeable, their qualifications, and why you choose to trust them.

 

[JonC]

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Hey Brother - I'll include your sources (I am trying to maintain sort of a of list).

Dr Andy Kaufman is a psychiatrist out of Syracuse NY. He has a popular YouTube channel. He denies that HIV, measles, covid, polio, the chickenpox, and viral hepatitis viruses exists. Instead these are manufactured crisis by powers with a global agenda. Symptomatic persons should be treated with natural remedies (he mentions bone broth).

Karen Kingston was a sales representative for Pfizer from June 1996 to December 1998. Her bio has already been listed on this thread.

 

[Use of Time]

Why since you're using your time here to poke I will take a little more of your time to tell you partially why this here is happening.

A while back I posted an opinion about what I thought certain people's tactics were about getting people to support their vax policies, by turning them against

those who chose not to take the vax.

This is the thread:

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/the-unvaxed-are-lice-has-a-precedent.121834/#post-2730050

Jon didn't like it and did not accept my explanation of why I posted it.

Since then we sort of have been at each other.

I suppose you still may be on his side but since that lice post there have been many edits of my other posts and not only by Jon.

I consider my theological beliefs to be conservative, that is, not heretical.

But I think we on this forum have a right to express our opinions about current events without being bullied, made fun of, or called liars, even if nicely.

I cannot even pm Jon, and have been told take up any beefs with the admin, but I will not since I witnessed them making fun of me when they did not think I was there.

I know what I am doing, more or less, but they (and you) don't really understand it so they attack.

Not trolling but being indirectly blunt.

I do not agree with Jon, his sources, or his tactics.

This is a long way of saying he had the audacity to disagree with you. That is just a fact of life. I think you take all this way too personally. If he disagrees with you and you don’t like each other’s sources then talk it out. That’s the nature of a message board. I don’t know about the post editing stuff and only the admins can answer that.

 

[JonC]

On the anti-covid-vaccine side Dr. Malone needs to be included.


Dr. Robert Malone, MD, Northwestern University. Dr. Malone's work with DNA and RNA, particularly his research in 1989 demonstrating how RNA could be delivered into cells using lipids was a contribution to the development of mRNA vaccines.

 

[JonC]

I have started a thread to list experts on both sides of the vaccine issue.

https://www.baptistboard.com/threads/virus-and-vaccine-experts-and-experts.122253/

 

[SGO]

This is a long way of saying he had the audacity to disagree with you. That is just a fact of life. I think you take all this way too personally. If he disagrees with you and you don’t like each other’s sources then talk it out. That’s the nature of a message board. I don’t know about the post editing stuff and only the admins can answer that.

I disagree with many of the policies on this board and by their own rules the mods or administrators

should have banned me but they don't keep the rules either.

He can disagree all he wants, as well as you, but I do not appreciate sarcastic and snide remarks of

which he has made plenty of, plus attack my character or lack of it, going way beyond normal discourse.

Sure his speech may be more sophisticated than mine but that does not excuse his behavior as a moderator.

He can edit because he takes his role as a moderator seriously but can insult forum members, not only me?

If he did not hide behind his position it would be ok but, not only that, he also has help.

This has been going on this board for years way before I got here.

Now he changed his policy of pm?

Squire Robertsson suggested it, but Jon made it sound like it was my fault for not writing.

I never got a pm from Jon saying, "My door is open now."

Jon and I have had a number of cordial pms but I no longer trust him.

Sorry if you think I am overly sensitive, and called a "whiner" by more than one moderator.

They fought for freedom but do not allow it, if it's not their kind of freedom.

 

[JonC]

by their own rules the mods or administrators

should have banned me but they don't keep the rules either.

Rules are good, but how they are interpreted insofar as severity is subjective. I consider banning somebody only for extraordinary situations ("strong heresy", pornography, etc.). When a person accumulates 4 warning points they are temporarily suspended until one dropps off.

I try to be lighthanded when it comes to warnings, edits, etc. I have never banned a member (other than the occassional spammer, but out system catches these....usually...before they hit the open forum). I don't edit or delete posts where I am involved in the conversation, so much of the time I do not see inappropriate posts until they are reported.

As evidence, consider that you have never even received a warning. We try to give room for emotions and even the occasional outburst. People are people, after all. And we have members encompassing a wide range in regards to background, maturity, and temperament.

What I think most of the staff hopes will occur is members will pull back one another while giving each other a little room. The goal should be to learn about the reasons we hold different opinions and to perhaps gain some understanding about the other person.

This cannot be done in an echo chamber. I have benefitted by reading @Iconoclast 's posts about Reformed Baptists and Confessions. I have learned about Reformation Arminianism from @Reynolds . @tyndale1946 and @kyredneck have taught me about "old school" Baptists or primitive Baptists.

I do not share any of their positions insofar as denominational differences are concerned. But I do share their faith as we are children of the same Father through Christ.

So we can argue...sometimes much too harshley...but at the end of the day we are arguing as siblings.

 

[JonC]

Back to the topic, @SGO

What are the qualifications for the experts you cite. Other than Karen Kingston, who else do you believe are experts concerning covid and the vaccines?

 

[percho]

Hey Brother - I'll include your sources (I am trying to maintain sort of a of list).

Dr Andy Kaufman is a psychiatrist out of Syracuse NY. He has a popular YouTube channel. He denies that HIV, measles, covid, polio, the chickenpox, and viral hepatitis viruses exists. Instead these are manufactured crisis by powers with a global agenda. Symptomatic persons should be treated with natural remedies (he mentions bone broth).

Karen Kingston was a sales representative for Pfizer from June 1996 to December 1998. Her bio has already been listed on this thread.

I don't think using the term whistleblower for her relative to c19 was the correct thing to do. I think they quote her research into c19 not necessarily knowledge she obtained on site. In other words a former whistleblower's thoughts from her research.

 

[JonC]

I don't think using the term whistleblower for her relative to c19 was the correct thing to do. I think they quote her research into c19 not necessarily knowledge she obtained on site. In other words a former whistleblower's thoughts from her research.

I agree. She cannot be a "whistleblower" because she has not been there for the last 24 years to blow a whistle.

She is free to express her opinion, but I do not see how her opinion really matters (she was a sales rep 24 years ago with training in marketing).

I think they say "whistleblower" and "former Pfizer employee" to make her appear knowledgeable where it is lacking.

 

[SGO]

I'm golfing today, "Four!"

 

[percho]

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[SGO]

Deleted to be here.

 

[JonC]

Deleted to be here.

Good. I am also delighted you are here. The board would be boring without diverse opinions.

You have posted about viruses and vaccines. What are the qualifications you look for when evaluating the expertise of your "experts"?

 

[SGO]

"No argument from me," said the fly to the spider.

That is not an innocent question, protecting "our voice".

 

[JonC]

"No argument from me." said the fly to the spider.

Good. It would be foolish for a fly to argue with a spider. Best the fly mind his own flight path.

You have offered posts about vscvines and viruses. What is your criteria for selecting "experts"?

 

[SGO]

I am not going to answer any of your questions because you are pro-vax and just like the post above, you are hongry.

 

[JonC]

I am not going to answer any of your questions because you are pro-vax and just like the post above, you are hongry.

I take that to mean you just choose "experts" based on what they say (those who "tickle your ears). Sad.

 

[SGO]

Why don't you reveal more private forum data about me like you did yesterday to make your point.

I think it was Squire Robertsson who deleted your post.

Talk about sad.

 

[percho]

Hey Brother - I'll include your sources (I am trying to maintain sort of a of list).

Dr Andy Kaufman is a psychiatrist out of Syracuse NY. He has a popular YouTube channel. He denies that HIV, measles, covid, polio, the chickenpox, and viral hepatitis viruses exists. Instead these are manufactured crisis by powers with a global agenda. Symptomatic persons should be treated with natural remedies (he mentions bone broth).

Karen Kingston was a sales representative for Pfizer from June 1996 to December 1998. Her bio has already been listed on this thread.

I will post this being she was one in question. Again I do not think she is speaking as a whistleblower but as a researcher.

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