Do you believe Trump is a Christian?
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White Christianity seething in its own soup.
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That’s not saying much
I wondered about that... what’s that all about?
That's irrelevant to my point. My point is that his policies would be more friendly to Christians/the Church than Hillary's. Progressives around the globe are killing religious liberty for the Church. Of course, if you are a Muslim, that's another story.
I try not to guess at who is a Christian or not, but if a gun were to my head, I would say that Trump is not a Christian.
What exactly? What did Bill Clinton do to kill religious liberty? Remember, religious freedom is the right of every American to worship God as they see fit. It's not the right of Christians to impose our beliefs on others. I think we've seen evidence that harms the church by turning off the younger generation and seekers. We are commanded by Jesus to respect the government but to remain separate. Countries like Iran have a state religion (Islam). Do you really want that in the U.S.?
I agree that GW Bush did a terrific amount of harm to America. I thought his father was a good president but have some questions about him now. His father made his money by dealing with the Nazi's before and during WWII.
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power
While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.
Tantalising
Bush was also on the board of at least one of the companies that formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world.
Thyssen owned the largest steel and coal company in Germany and grew rich from Hitler's efforts to re-arm between the two world wars. One of the pillars in Thyssen's international corporate web, UBC, worked exclusively for, and was owned by, a Thyssen-controlled bank in the Netherlands. More tantalising are Bush's links to the Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), based in mineral rich Silesia on the German-Polish border. During the war, the company made use of Nazi slave labour from the concentration camps, including Auschwitz. The ownership of CSSC changed hands several times in the 1930s, but documents from the US National Archive declassified last year link Bush to CSSC, although it is not clear if he and UBC were still involved in the company when Thyssen's American assets were seized in 1942.
In terms of morality, however Trump is far worse.
First, I didn't mention Bill Clinton.
Second, how could you read my post and think that I want anything less than religious liberty for Christians?
Hillary and Bill are linked together in the minds of Republicans. She was actually blamed for his indiscretions (blaming the victim). Secondly, the U.S. Constitution protects religious liberty for ALL. You keep focusing on Christianity only. That's the problem and as I said is actually harmful to the Christian Church because non-Christians see that as linking Christianity with the government. Actually, that has been going on for a long time. The Republican Party has wrongfully portrayed it that way for years.
I was speaking of Hillary *if* she had become president. I believe she would have followed in Obama's, not Bill's, footsteps.
What did Obama do to jeopardize religious freedom for all?
Amazon has paid this Virginia Professor Charles Mathewes of the Religious Left to write what Jeff Bezos believes in the Bezos owned newspaper Washington Post. Bezos through Amazon may be the richest man in the world but it is clear that he is a liberal Democrat along the lines of George Soros. The Religious Left and Bezos and Soros should try to get Muslims in this country to cater gay and lesbian weddings and force Muslims to bake a cake according to gay and lesbian specifications. The Religious Left and Bezos and Soros would cater any event if they thought that they could make a dollar. Look for Amazon to advertise cakes for the KKK.
Then what motivation does he have for Christians and for Gods agenda?
What!?! Oh come on now... where are you getting this stuff from?
FTW was asked a specific question I’m post #13. Until they answer it, I’m not going to believe a single word they say.
OK, I was convicted when I bashed Obama's deeds (although I did still speak out on some issues - murder of the innocent) after realizing this
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
My vote for Trump was based upon the principle of : #NeverClinton because of quantity/quality of lifestyle seeing that all have sinned.
HankD
Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
My vote for Trump was based upon the principle of : #NeverClinton because of quantity/quality of lifestyle seeing that all have sinned.
HankD
Remember when the national endowment for art gave millions to have "art" such as Jesus in a urine jar painted? Image if they had Muhammed in the same way presented? that Museum would have been burned down that day!
I'm saying you completely disregarded what your candidate Trump was, a man with no background nor experience for the job, and no morals who lies incessantly. The devil told you he would give you whatever you wanted and you accepted his bargain. Hillary has neither been accused nor convicted of any crime. By attacking her because she had a wayward husband you're blaming the innocent person. It seems that a lot of legalistic professing Christians do this. They always blame the woman. I've heard this is done by a very prominent SBC minister here in Atlanta. I don't agree with him and I don't agree with you. I won't answer your question because it includes false assumptions but yes, a vote for Hillary was the better choice.
She’s got problems without her husband. He makes them worse.
And I already knew you weren’t going to answer.
And I already knew you weren’t going to answer.
What!?! Oh come on now... where are you getting this stuff from?
Did you read the link? The religious left Professor Mathewes said that Evangelicals, whom he slurs as all white--as if race had some meaning other than genetics such as shoe size--should be forced to bake customized cakes for sodomite events but he does not insist on the same thing for Islam, which shows the bigotry of the religious left. Since Bezos (Amazon) owns the Washington Post, which does not bother to conceal their hatred of Trump, it is only logical to conclude that Amazon will gladly cater a KKK rally if Bezos could make a buck. Why don't you ask Bezos why he is so money hungry since he is already the richest man in the world? And why can't gays and lesbians get their customized wedding cakes from Amazon?
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