White Lies

[vooks]

Aint you got a TV. Turn it on any sunday mornin

Thank you for that suggestion, but I never turn on TV on a Sunday morning, somebody else in the house does it:thumbs:

 

[vooks]

The UNSTABLE and UNLEARNED pretend to esteem Scriptures above all

Vooks - once again I will be going with the Bible on this one - so yet another topic where the Bible is going to be more important that the fluff you were offering us by contrast.

But this is their well;

There is hope for every remnant believer today who sometimes feels confused at all the differing views taken by different scholars and commentaries. We have that was given for the purpose of settling the disagreements among the uninspired commentaries. What do you do when the scholars disagree? Do you have to become a better scholar than the best in order to settle the disagreement in your own mind? No, let me repeat. God has given to our church an inspired commentary to settle the disagreements among the uninspired commentaries. And we can still be thankful for that today."

Morris Venden, The Pillars, p. 30.
The ONLY 'inspired' commentary in the entire universe :laugh:

 

[Chowmah]

Thank you for that suggestion, but I never turn on TV on a Sunday morning, somebody else in the house does it:thumbs:

I guess the thing that bothers me most vooks is that people still follow her teachings while knowing she was completely wrong about a few things. One being the kingdom will be in heaven. Its so easily proven by the scriptures that it will be here on Gods green earth.

 

[vooks]

There is a book, Appeal to Mothers by Ellen White that SDAs long stopped publishing. It was among her 'health' books, and it focussed on 'solitary vice' or masturbation. As usual, Ellen White prophecies and visions were in the words of BobRyan 'made up' as she went and they revolved around contemporary issues.

The relative limited knowledge of human physiology in the 18th and 19th century is mirrored in Ellen White 'health reforms'. Looks like her angel/god could not think beyond humans.

This article examines her anti-solitary-vice rhetoric. Allow me to quote just a small portion of her book to demonstrate White Lies

Children who practice self-indulgence [masturbation] previous to puberty, or the period of merging into manhood or womanhood, must pay the penalty of nature's violated laws at that critical period. Many sink into an early grave, while others have sufficient force of constitution to pass this ordeal. If the practice is continued from the age of fifteen and upward, nature will protest against the abuse she has suffered, and continues to suffer, and will make them pay the penalty for the transgression of her laws, especially from the ages of thirty to forty-five, by numerous pains in the system, and various diseases, such as affection of the liver and lungs, neuralgia, rheumatism, affection of the spine, diseased kidneys, and cancerous humors. Some of nature's fine machinery gives way, leaving a heavier task for the remaining to perform, which disorders nature's fine arrangement, and there is often a sudden breaking down of the constitution; and death is the result."1
"Some who make a high profession do not understand the sin of self-abuse and its sure results. Long-established habit has blinded their understanding. They do not realize the exceeding sinfulness of this degrading sin, which is enervating the system and destroying their brain nerve power."2

"I saw that the family of Brother G__ need a great work done for them. H__ and I__ have gone to great lengths in this crime of self-abuse; especially is this true of H__, who has gone so far in the practice of this sin that his intellect is affected, his eye-sight is weakened, and disease is fastening itself upon him."3

"He had practiced self-abuse until he was a mere wreck of humanity. This vice was shown me as an abomination in the sight of God. ... The results of self-abuse in them is seen in various diseases, such as catarrh, dropsy, headache, loss of memory and sight, great weakness in the back and loins, affections of the spine, the head often decays inwardly. Cancerous humor, which would lay dormant in the system their life-time, is inflamed, and commences its eating, destructive work. The mind is often utterly ruined, and insanity takes place."4

According to the above quotes, the following health problems are caused by masturbation:
1. Brain weakened
2. Cancerous tumors
3.Catarrh
4. Dropsy
5. Eye-sight weakened
6. Headache
7. Head decay
8. Insanity
9. Kidney disease
10. Liver disease
11. Lung disease
12. Memory loss
13. Nervous system damage
14. Neuralgia
15. Pains in the system
16. Premature death
17. Rheumatism
18. Spinal weakness/problems

http://www.adventpioneerbooks.com/Text/SolemnAppeaL.pdf-1
http://text.egwwritings.org/publicationtoc.php?bookCode=2T -2,3
http://text.egwwritings.org/publication.php?pubtype=Book&bookCode=ApM&pagenumber=25 -4

And always remember she was inspired and none of her writing was her opinion and to think this was to rebel against God:laugh:

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

There is a new inspired sot around.

 

[Gerhard Ebersoehn]

I guess the thing that bothers me most vooks is that people still follow her teachings while knowing she was completely wrong about a few things. One being the kingdom will be in heaven. Its so easily proven by the scriptures that it will be here on Gods green earth.

Again, thank you for a wise and uplifting contribution, Chowmah.