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You have left into another direction from what this thread is about!

 

What and how did I explain it ?

 

I explained what I meant, what are the details of what I explained ?

 

The Redeemed are taught of God ! 3

Going back to the OP Text Isa 48:17

17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

Notice another promise to the redeemed "the Lord, thy Redeemer leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go."

The word lead here darak, its used in the causative sense as in Isa 11:15

15 And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall smite it in the seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.

Obviously alluding to how God lead Israel through the parted red sea by the power of God Ex 14:29

29 But the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.

Also Like Isa 42:16

16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.

It also means to be lead in God's Truth Ps 25:5

5 Lead me in thy truth, and teach me: for thou art the God of my salvation; on thee do I wait all the day.

Hence if we be one of the redeemed, God will see to it that we are guided into the Truth Jn 16:13

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The word lead here hodēgeō means:

I.to be a guide, lead on one's way, to guide which is exactly what is promised the redeem in our text Isa 48:17 !

Now many mistakenly believe that the Promise of Jn 16:13 aplys only to Christ's immediate disciples, but its not, its to all for whom He died and redeemed, His Body the Church, because they receive the promise of the Spirit Gal 3:13-14;4:4-6;

In fact its the same word the redeemed ethiopian eunech used here Acts 8:30-31

30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Philip was used by God the Spirit to lead and guide this redeemed man into the Truth !

It was the Spirit that directed Philip to the chariot where the eunech was Acts 8:29

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

And God used Philip to lead him the eunech into the Truth of Isa 53:7-8

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Which fulfills the Promise of Isa 48:17

17 Thus saith the Lord, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the Lord thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.

See also Ps 32:8

I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.

Which applies to these blessed ones Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Which are the redeemed !

 

You aren't doing what I asked, you are just giving me your interpretation of what I posted and ignoring the points I made and how i made them!

 

The all for whom Christ was given to be a ransom for !

1 Tim 2:6

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Also Matt 20:28

28 Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.

The all for whom He was a ransom for was not all mankind without exception, for scripture never says that or means that, not even close, but its meaning is, all of the Many as indicated in Matt 20:28.

Before we proceed lets look at the word FOR in both of these scriptures about Christ giving Himself a Ransom .

In 1 Tim 2:6 the word for is the greek huper and means:

in behalf of; acc: above.

properly, beyond (above); (figuratively) to extend benefit (help) that reaches beyond the present situation.

Those He gave Himself for receive benefit from it, help

is usually best translated "for the betterment (advantage) of," i.e. focusing on benefit. M. Vincent, "5228 (hypér) signifies something like 'in the interests of the truth . . . concerning.' J. B. Lightfoot (on Gal 1:4) . . . remarks that hypér has 'a sense of interest in,' which is wanting to peri" (WS).

(hypér) naturally expresses conferring benefit, i.e. for the sake of "betterment" (improvement,

This is key, the extending of the help or benefit is not just making it available, but the help and benefit is conferred upon them all.

The word confer actually means To bestow

So these all whom He gave Himself a ransom for, receive a bestowed benefit from it, and of course its a spiritual benefit for their betterment and improvement !

These words denote:

a change for the better; improvement

One of the benefits is that it sets them free ! Its what Jesus had in Mind when He said this Jn 8:36

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

This comes about as an result of the Son giving Himself a Ransom for all whom He gave Himself for !935

 

The all for whom Christ was given to be a ransom for !2

Redemption is the result of the Ransom, for the ransom payment is so that Redemption may be set in motion; make active , for they must go hand in hand, like we here Ps 49:7

7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: The Lone exception is Jesus Christ, who redeemed His Brethren !

Jer 31:11

11 For the Lord hath redeemed Jacob, and ransomed him from the hand of him that was stronger than he. This Pictures how the Elect of Christ are ransomed and redeemed out of the power of the devil, the strong man ! See Luke 11:21-23

Hos 11:14

14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

And next, even though the words arent together in the same verse, they are in the same immediate context here Isa 35:9-10

9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

And notice Vs 8 of the same context Isa 35:8

And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

It is the way that the ransomed and redeemed shall walk therein ! This does not speak of any possibilities or contingency, that it may or may not occur, but its one of the sure shalls of God !

And the way spoken of is none other that Jesus Christ, their Redeemer, He is the Way to God Jn 14:6

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

And He is that Narrow and Unpopular way Matt 7:14

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Hes that narrow way that Leadeth to Life, Jn 14:6 and its this way all the ransomed shall go 1 Tim 2:6

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Thats the same ransomed of Isa 35:8-10 !

Now if it is never the case for one, then they simply were not part of the All of 1 Tim 2:6 !

 

van

Is that why you evade the points I made with scripture ?

 

The all for whom Christ was given to be a ransom for !3

All those whom Christ was given as a ransom for 1 Tim 2:6

6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

The shall be returned [unto God] or converted, Isa 35:10

10 And the ransomed of the Lord shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.

The promise is, they shall return and come to zion Heb 12:22-24

22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

The idea is that the ransomed of the Lord shall be converted and returned from their captivity to sin, the world and the devil, which all men by nature are captive by, yet the ransomed [those Christ died for] they shall be returned or converted out of it.

All the elect originally in Adam were taken captive by the devil as indicated here 2 Tim 2:26

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

Adam through his wife eve was taken captive by the devil at his will, notice the sacred narrative of Gen 3:1-8, but the ransomed of the Lord shall be recovered from this captivity in order to believe and submit to the Truth !

 

van

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Lol, another excuse for your evasion of my points made !

 

van again

Excuse for evasion of points made !