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Who do you like for the 2020 baseball season? And other thoughts!?!

righteousdude2

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Let's change the subject a bit and venture a view, not on politics or religion, BUT on who you think will win the season-shortened baseball season in 2020? In fact, let's take this question a step further than who you may like or think will win the World Series; and tell me if you believe the shortened season will even be played out to a 2020 world series???

I am thinking that the virus could easily wipe out any sports menu this year (including baseball, football and basketball to name a few) through maybe Spring 202!?!?.

A bonus question for those who read the entire posted question is this: Is life in America better or worse off with the virus ending, and virus changing, confusion when it comes to scheduling games in any sporting events here in America?

I venture to say that many a households are experiencing SPORTING EVENTS withdrawals. And while there may be many happy housewife's, having more time with their men, the male of our species has to be bouncing off the walls with all the changes going on in a sports driven society. WHAT SAY YOU?

FINALLY .... Will the ever-changing sports world put more people back in our pews, or will nothing change with all the extra time the scheduling ending/shortening of seasons is going to have on the male species of the household?
 

JonC

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I think we will get a world series. I want to see the Braves take it. (maybe a short season will help.... Lol). If I were a betting man I'd put money on Yankees.

Of course, betting men are not Braves fans so I'm good. I say Atlanta.
 

AustinC

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Short season and American League rules so I suspect the team from nowhere. Let's just toss out a random guess and say the Oakland A's.
 

Salty

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I want to see players with hand over heart during the National Anthem
(and if by chance any vet- they should give the military hand salute)
 

AustinC

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I want to see players with hand over heart during the National Anthem
(and if by chance any vet- they should give the military hand salute)
This is irrelevant to baseball or any sport.
Give a Vet respect at anytime, but these are just sporting events. They have nothing to do with someone's service in the armed forces.
Just play the game.
 

Salty

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This is irrelevant to baseball or any sport.
Give a Vet respect at anytime, but these are just sporting events. They have nothing to do with someone's service in the armed forces.
Just play the game.

Not when they are disrespectful


Edited to add- actually it does!
 
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JonC

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They should stand, facing the flag, with their hand over their heart with their cap over their left shoulder. This is not because they are baseball players but because they are Americans. I suppose if they are not American the proper thing to do would be to stand.

But a lot of this has been lost to time (like taking off a cap when entering a building).
 

AustinC

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Not when they are disrespectful
You are the person judging respect or disrespect. Don't watch baseball if you think it's all about standing or kneeling for a song.
It's just a game. Let it be a game rather than politics.
 

AustinC

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They should stand, facing the flag, with their hand over their heart with their cap over their left shoulder. This is not because they are baseball players but because they are Americans. I suppose if they are not American the proper thing to do would be to stand.

But a lot of this has been lost to time (like taking off a cap when entering a building).
Most are not Americans. They are internationals. It just happens that they work in the US. In what other place of business do we ask people to stand for the US national anthem before they can go do their job?
 

JonC

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Most are not Americans. They are internationals. It just happens that they work in the US. In what other place of business do we ask people to stand for the US national anthem before they can go do their job?
I know the Army does.

The issue is foreign citizens are to stand (when I was in Germany I would stand) because of custom and respect.

With MLB they should make a decisions based on their consumers (it is a business). If they demand their employees wear a cap, or that all team members to include coaches wear a uniform, or that they stand for the anthem in respect to the country in which they are playing.... They are in their rights as an employer.

It should not be illegal to take a knee. But it us up to the employer represented by the players whether or not to require them to stand up.
 

just-want-peace

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You are the person judging respect or disrespect. Don't watch baseball if you think it's all about standing or kneeling for a song.
It's just a game. Let it be a game rather than politics.

Kapersick () the one who introduced POLITICS into sports.
 

AustinC

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Kapersick () the one who introduced POLITICS into sports.
Hate to break it to you, but politics was introduced to sports far before Kapernick attempted to bring light to young black men who were being unjustly killed in US society.

How did the Star-Spangled Banner come to be a staple of sports in the first place? The answer, it turns out, has to do with World War I.
Baseball fans in the late 19th century might’ve heard live military bands play the Star-Spangled Banner at a game every so often, but the song—which hadn’t yet been designated as the national anthem—wasn’t really a common occurrence at sporting events. That began to change on September 5, 1918, during Game 1 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox and the Chicago Cubs. It was an era when the Red Sox still had Babe Ruth, and the phrase “the last time the Cubs won the World Series” wasn’t yet a joke. In fact, the two teams had won six of the last 15 world championship titles.
Yet even though the event featured two teams at the top of their games, the crowd was somber that day, writesESPN The Magazine. Since entering the Great War a year and a half ago, more than 100,000 U.S. soldiers had died. And just a day before the game, a bomb had exploded in Chicago, (the city in which the game was held), killing four people and injuring dozens more. In addition, the U.S. government had recently announced that it would begin drafting major league baseball players.
All this sat heavy on the shoulders of both the players and the smaller-than-usual crowd of fans that day. But during the seventh-inning stretch, the U.S. Navy band began to play the Star-Spangled Banner; and something changed.
As the song began, Red Sox infielder Fred Thomas—who was in the Navy and had been granted furlough to play in the World Series—immediately turned toward the American flag and gave it a military salute, according to the Chicago Tribune. Other players turned to the flag with hands over hearts, and the already-standing crowd began to sing. At the song’s conclusion, the previously quiet fans erupted in thunderous applause. At the time, the New York Times reported that it “marked the highest point of the day’s enthusiasm.” The song would be played at each of the Series’ remaining games, to increasingly rapturous response. And patriotism played a part right from the start, as the Red Sox gave free tickets to wounded veterans and honored them during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner before the start of the decisive Game 6.
Other baseball parks began to play the song on holidays and special occasions, and Red Sox owner Harry Frazee made it a regular part of Boston home games. The Star-Spangled Banner officially became the U.S. national anthem in 1931, and by the end of World War II, NFL Commissioner Elmer Layden ordered that it be played at every football game. The tradition quickly spread to other sports, aided by the introduction of large sound systems and post-war patriotism.
The anthem’s adoption also gave way to a new American pastime, almost as beloved as sports itself: complaining about people’s behavior during the national anthem. By 1954, Baltimore Orioles general manager Arthur Ehlers was already bemoaning fans he thought disrespected the anthem by talking and laughing during the song. Ehlers briefly stopped playing the anthem altogether, before relenting to pressure and reinstating it a month later.
Why the Star-Spangled Banner is Played At Sporting Events | HISTORY
 

Salty

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You are the person judging respect or disrespect. Don't watch baseball if you think it's all about standing or kneeling for a song.
It's just a game. Let it be a game rather than politics.
Yes, I am judging and I am not ashamed of it! These protesters are complaining about how horrible it is in America. Yet, they have it pretty good. Many of them have the financial means to help large groups of those in need.


Most are not Americans. They are internationals. It just happens that they work in the US. In what other place of business do we ask people to stand for the US national anthem before they can go do their job?

When in Rome- Do as the Romans. When I was in Germany - I had no problem respecting the German flag. ---Key word is Respect.
Now, just what is so bad about standing for the National Anthem?

I have been to High School graduations - and the anthem is played. Other events as well.
Over 1 million GI's have died on the battlefield - not just for the Freedom of the USA, but for the freedom of other countries as well.

Austin - one question - Do you know how the tradition of the National Anthem being played at sports events began?
 

InTheLight

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Let's change the subject a bit and venture a view, not on politics or religion, BUT on who you think will win the season-shortened baseball season in 2020? In fact, let's take this question a step further than who you may like or think will win the World Series; and tell me if you believe the shortened season will even be played out to a 2020 world series???

I have no idea who will win the World Series, assuming some team doesn't get decimated by the virus and if we are fortunate enough to complete the shortened season and the playoffs.

I am thinking that the virus could easily wipe out any sports menu this year (including baseball, football and basketball to name a few) through maybe Spring 202!?!?.

Baseball is the petri dish for the rest of the sporting world. If they can get through this, the other sports will likely continue on.

I venture to say that many a households are experiencing SPORTING EVENTS withdrawals. And while there may be many happy housewife's, having more time with their men, the male of our species has to be bouncing off the walls with all the changes going on in a sports driven society. WHAT SAY YOU?

I haven't been bouncing off the walls, but I have missed real (live) baseball.

FINALLY .... Will the ever-changing sports world put more people back in our pews, or will nothing change with all the extra time the scheduling ending/shortening of seasons is going to have on the male species of the household?

I'm failing to see the connection between sports not playing and people going back to church. I DO see a connection between not being able to go to a sporting event and being leery of going to church. If people could attend sports events again, I'm certain more people would begin attending church again as well.
 

AustinC

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Yes, I am judging and I am not ashamed of it! These protesters are complaining about how horrible it is in America. Yet, they have it pretty good. Many of them have the financial means to help large groups of those in need.




When in Rome- Do as the Romans. When I was in Germany - I had no problem respecting the German flag. ---Key word is Respect.
Now, just what is so bad about standing for the National Anthem?

I have been to High School graduations - and the anthem is played. Other events as well.
Over 1 million GI's have died on the battlefield - not just for the Freedom of the USA, but for the freedom of other countries as well.

Austin - one question - Do you know how the tradition of the National Anthem being played at sports events began?
It began because of the fear of Communism.

Now, Kaepernick took the opportunity to shed light on a continual national sin. You are free to think differently. My point is that baseball is a game and nothing more. Perhaps it's time to remove the national anthem from all sports events so that people such as yourself can't turn sports into a political agenda.
 

InTheLight

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Other thoughts on baseball...

The playoff format is an abomination. The top two teams in each division will make the playoffs PLUS there will be two wild card teams per league. The wild card teams will be the two third place teams with the best records. That means that sixteen teams will make the playoffs. That is more than half the teams in baseball making the playoffs.

To add insult to injury there is no real advantage to taking first place or having the best record in your league. If a team goes 50-10, takes first place and has the best record in the league they play the number eight seed in the playoffs in a best 2 out of 3 series at the home field of the first place team. There is no playoff round bye for the teams with the best records. There is a real possibility that the number eight seeded team could have a losing record. Yet, they will be in the playoffs and they could conceivably get lucky in three games and beat the number one seeded team. So, it's possible that the 50-10 team could lose to a 28-32 team.

The new extra innings rule that puts a runner on second base to start the 10th inning is a joke. This is being done to speed up the game. I hope you like sacrifice bunts, intentional walks, 5 guys in the infield, and sacrifice flies.

I like the DH in the National League.

I like the new rule that requires a relief pitcher to face at least three batters and/or complete the inning.
 
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InTheLight

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The baseball players kneeling are not Marxists, Communists, or Socialists. They are kneeling to support blacks that feel they are being discriminated against. Obviously, kneeling during the national anthem is working because everybody is aware it is being done. People are talking about it and deliriously overreacting to it.

First people complained about Kaepernick kneeling. Don't protest like that, they said. Then they complained when NBA players wore patches on their jerseys. Don't protest like that, they said. Then they complained when black actors and actresses gave speeches at award ceremonies. Don't protest like that. Then they complained when black singers gave speeches at awards ceremonies. Then people complained when NBA players would mention black issues at after game press conferences. Don't protest like that, people said. Then they complained when NBA players wore tee shirts with messages on them during pre-game warm-ups. Don't protest like that.

Why don't you people just admit that you don't want blacks to articulate their issues?
 

JonC

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The baseball players kneeling are not Marxists, Communists, or Socialists. They are kneeling to support blacks that feel they are being discriminated against. Obviously, kneeling during the national anthem is working because everybody is aware it is being done. People are talking about it and deliriously overreacting to it.

First people complained about Kaepernick kneeling. Don't protest like that, they said. Then they complained when NBA players wore patches on their jerseys. Don't protest like that, they said. Then they complained when black actors and actresses gave speeches at award ceremonies. Don't protest like that. Then they complained when black singers gave speeches at awards ceremonies. Then people complained when NBA players would mention black issues at after game press conferences. Don't protest like that, people said. Then they complained when NBA players wore tee shirts with messages on them during pre-game warm-ups. Don't protest like that.

Why don't you people just admit that you don't want blacks to articulate their issues?
The Baseball players are also not kneeling for the anthem. They are kneeling before the anthem.
 

tyndale1946

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The Baseball players are also not kneeling for the anthem. They are kneeling before the anthem.

Not that much into baseball, more of a football fan... Ok Jon you can stop you booing... May watch the playoffs and the World Series but that's about it... But I must say opening day was a hoot, with the virtual spectators and It was sad to see all the empty seats... Somebody is losing a ton of money:eek:... Well... It is what it is... Play Ball!... Brother Glen:)
 
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