Who Gave the Right to Interpret "Spiritually"?

[John of Japan]

That would be me. I have been rather sick lately and just came back to this thread.

No, I do not believe in a still-future physical coming of Christ.

That is why the full preterist position is the most hopeless and discouraging position out there. The future stretches out forever, with no help coming, and mankind getting worse and worse. But the 2nd coming of Christ is a blessed hope according to Titus 2:13--"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." If Christ came "spiritually" in AD 70, it was a hopeless event. No one was blessed and it was not glorious.

 

[Jope]

Chapter and verse, please, for this "on hold".

Did you know that Ephesians 3:1-6 is in the Bible?

And sorry I just plainly find it absurd to teach that everlasting righteousness has been brought in in history sometime, as per the post that you replied to (Daniel 9:24).

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[TCassidy]

I meant to write, "He does not say seventy sevens of years."

Ah, okay. That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

But I refer you to Ezekiel 45:21, where shabua seems to mean seven days,

Yes. A week.

 

[Yeshua1]

That is why the full preterist position is the most hopeless and discouraging position out there. The future stretches out forever, with no help coming, and mankind getting worse and worse. But the 2nd coming of Christ is a blessed hope according to Titus 2:13--"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." If Christ came "spiritually" in AD 70, it was a hopeless event. No one was blessed and it was not glorious.

That belief has always been seen as Heresy, correct?

 

[Yeshua1]

That is why the full preterist position is the most hopeless and discouraging position out there. The future stretches out forever, with no help coming, and mankind getting worse and worse. But the 2nd coming of Christ is a blessed hope according to Titus 2:13--"Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ." If Christ came "spiritually" in AD 70, it was a hopeless event. No one was blessed and it was not glorious.

If the Second Coming already happen, why are we still in this sick and depraived state, and not the messianic Age?

 

[John of Japan]

That belief has always been seen as Heresy, correct?

Yes, since it falls under Christology (2 John 9-11).

 

[Covenanter]

Did you know that Ephesians 3:1-6 is in the Bible?

And sorry I just plainly find it absurd to teach that everlasting righteousness has been brought in in history sometime, as per the post that you replied to (Daniel 9:24).

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Paul defines the mystery. In Christ, through the Gospel, Gentiles are heirs together with Israel....

Sorry you find it absurd that everlasting righteousness should be brought in within the 70 weeks as prophesied. Our righteousness by faith in Christ was secured at Calvary. Suggest you read Romans 3.

You reject "literal interpretation" when it doesn't suit your futuristic theology.

 

[Jope]

Paul defines the mystery. In Christ, through the Gospel, Gentiles are heirs together with Israel....

Sorry you find it absurd that everlasting righteousness should be brought in within the 70 weeks as prophesied. Our righteousness by faith in Christ was secured at Calvary. Suggest you read Romans 3.

You reject "literal interpretation" when it doesn't suit your futuristic theology.

There is not 490 years between the command to build and restore Jerusalem and the messiah's death. Suggest you read Daniel 9:24 in context.

Where did I reject literal interpretation here? Lol. I disagree with tCassidy and he still is in the wrong but that's not my problem and I'm not going to be a baby and continue arguing with him about it since he refuses to see it. Will I be doing the same with you?

You reject literal interpretation of my posts when it doesn't suit your absurd nonliteral theology.


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[TCassidy]

I disagree with tCassidy and he still is in the wrong but that's not my problem and I'm not going to be a baby and continue arguing with him about it since he refuses to see it.

LOL! ROFLOL! Uh, you did notice what Martin said, didn't you?

Martin Marprelate said: ↑
I meant to write, "He does not say seventy sevens of years."

I pointed out that what Martin said was wrong.

You disagreed. Because you missed the point.

Then Martin said, yes, he did make a mistake and meant to say something else.

So now you are saying that Martin is wrong for admitting he was wrong?

LOL! ROFLOL!

You really are a piece of work!

 

[Yeshua1]

There is not 490 years between the command to build and restore Jerusalem and the messiah's death. Suggest you read Daniel 9:24 in context.

Where did I reject literal interpretation here? Lol. I disagree with tCassidy and he still is in the wrong but that's not my problem and I'm not going to be a baby and continue arguing with him about it since he refuses to see it. Will I be doing the same with you?

You reject literal interpretation of my posts when it doesn't suit your absurd nonliteral theology.


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Daniel predicted the right number of years unto the coming of the Messiah, and still 1 more 7 yr period left to fulfill!

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes, since it falls under Christology (2 John 9-11).

If we make a mistake on that, does that interfere with all of ones theology concening the scriptures?

 

[Jope]

You really are a piece of work!

A piece of sanctified work

Can I get an AMEN !

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Six Hour Warning

This thread will be closed sometime after 7 PM Pacific.

 

[Covenanter]

Are

Daniel predicted the right number of years unto the coming of the Messiah, and still 1 more 7 yr period left to fulfill!

Are you saying, not 70 weeks but hundreds of weeks?
Gabriel got it wrong?!?

 

[Covenanter]

I've written a hymn about the 7 seals, literally.
Q.V.

 

[Yeshua1]

Are


Are you saying, not 70 weeks but hundreds of weeks?
Gabriel got it wrong?!?

Daniel had it for 483 years, correct?

 

[Covenanter]

Daniel had it for 483 years, correct?

483 years to Jesus' anointing/baptism.
In the middle of the final, 70th week, Jesus FINISHED sacrifice and offering at Calvary.
The whole of the final week he was confirming the covenant with as many as received him.

 

[kyredneck]

still 1 more 7 yr period left to fulfill!

Thousands of years gap. You hold to a gap between Gen 1:1 & 2 also?

 

[Yeshua1]

Thousands of years gap. You hold to a gap between Gen 1:1 & 2 also?

No Gap theory!

 

[Yeshua1]

483 years to Jesus' anointing/baptism.
In the middle of the final, 70th week, Jesus FINISHED sacrifice and offering at Calvary.
The whole of the final week he was confirming the covenant with as many as received him.

The finale week was when Messiah would come as King of the Jews and be accepted by them as such!