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Who is Responsible for NYPD Assassinations?

matt wade

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Indeed.

I remember when Gabriel Giffords was shot and the left tried to pin it on pro 2nd amendment rights people, like Michele Bachmann. Well, here you have a situation where the right is trying to pin the blame on a different entity than the shooter for political purposes.

If it stunk when the left did it, it stinks when the right does it.

I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility? I know I am as a conservative. Maybe some of the "conservatives" on this board aren't as conservative as they think they are?
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
So Obama and Sharpton should not be held responsible for their actions in stirring up strife and animosity because only the shooter is responsible for his actions?

Is that what you guys are saying?
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
So Obama and Sharpton should not be held responsible for their actions in stirring up strife and animosity because only the shooter is responsible for his actions?

Is that what you guys are saying?

That's what I'm saying. The same as I don't blame video games for someone shooting someone.
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
That's what I'm saying. The same as I don't blame video games for someone shooting someone.

Alrighty then. If I were to stir up strife and animosity between you and a friend or family member and it came to a fist fight between the two of you, you wouldn't hold me responsible?

That's good to know. :smilewinkgrin:
 

matt wade

Well-Known Member
Alrighty then. If I were to stir up strife and animosity between you and a friend or family member and it came to a fist fight between the two of you, you wouldn't hold me responsible?

That's good to know. :smilewinkgrin:

That's right..I wouldn't hold you responsible.
 

Crabtownboy

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Site Supporter
The underlying conditions were created by the government and certain individuals that worked together with the media to exploit racial division and hatred.

That makes them responsible.

I think it goes much deeper in our society than what you mentioned.
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
That's right..I wouldn't hold you responsible.

Okay, so you don't believe instigators should be held responsible for their actions.

Got it.

If only my parents had held to your way of thinking. It would have saved me a few trips to the woodshed.
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poncho

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I think it goes much deeper in our society than what you mentioned.

So do I. However that isn't enough imho to excuse what the race baiters in government and the media have been doing for months.


And the reality of the matter is that we have made their jobs (police) so much tougher. Thanks to unchecked illegal immigration, there are now approximately 1.4 million members of criminal gangs living in our cities. And the Obama administration is allowing the UN to import thousands of Muslim radicals to communities all over the nation. The police have to deal with well-armed threats that they simply did not have to face 40 or 50 years ago. Our society is becoming increasingly unstable, and the police have to contend with the bleeding edge of that instability day after day.

So Ismaaiyl Brinsley did not appear out of a vacuum. Even though the mainstream media is playing this angle down, the truth is that Ismaaiyl Brinsley was probably a member of an extremely violent criminal gang, and he was most definitely a radical Muslim.


http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/war-streets-america

 
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Use of Time

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Indeed.

I remember when Gabriel Giffords was shot and the left tried to pin it on pro 2nd amendment rights people, like Michele Bachmann. Well, here you have a situation where the right is trying to pin the blame on a different entity than the shooter for political purposes.

If it stunk when the left did it, it stinks when the right does it.

I was going to post something similar the other day about this but I just didn't feel like diving into another exhausting conversation about this. The last three months here have seemed to be this inescapable scoreboard watching with everyone posting bad cop stories and good cop stories. The incessant need to generalize everything here makes both sides of these racial conversations go nowhere fast.
 

poncho

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I was going to post something similar the other day about this but I just didn't feel like diving into another exhausting conversation about this. The last three months here have seemed to be this inescapable scoreboard watching with everyone posting bad cop stories and good cop stories. The incessant need to generalize everything here makes both sides of these racial conversations go nowhere fast.

The rules of debate here are pretty simple. You can post any evidence you like just so long as you understand that if goes against the mainstream consensus or looks bad for "my team" it's all rubbish.
 
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Zaac

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I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility? I know I am as a conservative. Maybe some of the "conservatives" on this board aren't as conservative as they think they are?

They really aren't. You're dealing with a board full of situational political conservatives. They've got exceptions for everything.
 

poncho

Well-Known Member
They really aren't. You're dealing with a board full of situational political conservatives. They've got exceptions for everything.

It works both ways.

The lefties and the righties on this board both spend long hours dreaming up exceptions to the rules for their respective teams.

It seems the law and our founding principles should only be followed by the other team.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
So Obama and Sharpton should not be held responsible for their actions in stirring up strife and animosity because only the shooter is responsible for his actions?

Is that what you guys are saying?

What's good for the goose is also good for the gander. If Obama and Sharpton helped stir up strife and animosity, so did Hannity, Limbaugh and everyone on FOX NEWS. George Bush is responsible for the soldiers dying in Afghanistan. And the anti-black crowd on here is responsible for stirring up strife and an attitude of racial prejudice that fosters the killing of Blacks by police officers.

If anything, the Policemen's Benevolent Association rep is further stirring up strife. There are people that are attempting to use the killing of these officers as a political tool to stop the current movement.

It's not gonna work.
 

Zaac

Well-Known Member
So... all the Imam's and Ayatollah's aren't responsible for the terrorism in the world now?

The Imam's and the Ayatollah issue fatwah's calling for violence. Neither Al Sharpton nor President Obama has called for violence.

In fact, I've heard Al Sharpton and many of the protestors issue their condolences to the family's of the police officers. I've heard people on the left doing this all day and all weekend.

I don't know that I've heard much if anything from the right in terms of offering condolences to the family of Mike Brown or Eric Garner. I've heard plenty say the "thug got what he deserved". But very little in term of condolences.

Blame for the protestors is coming from the Policeman's Union. Eric Garner's wife is offering her condolences.

Blame for Al Sharpton is coming from Fox News, and folks on here and the police union chief. Al Sharpton is offering his condolences to the families.
 

ShagNappy

Member
The Imam's and the Ayatollah issue fatwah's calling for violence.

Al Sharpton attended, and participated in, a protest where they were calling for the death of Police Officers in his presence. His being there, and wallowing in the mud with the other scumbags, gives his tacit approval of said screechings. At no point has he called on protestors to quit calling for the deaths of police officers, until two scumbags carried out these desires, and now he is dropping a deuce in his britches because he sees the end of his face time with the media.. Al Sharpton has promoted, and supported many different groups, including gangs, that have called for violence, and have carried out said violence, on Police and whites in general.

Everything every racist said about black males was confirmed with the death of these cops and the idiots supporting the killers. These are your teammates... http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/student-leader-no-sympathy-executed-nypd-officers **LANGUAGE WARNING ** Good luck with that!
 

poncho

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What's good for the goose is also good for the gander. If Obama and Sharpton helped stir up strife and animosity, so did Hannity, Limbaugh and everyone on FOX NEWS. George Bush is responsible for the soldiers dying in Afghanistan. And the anti-black crowd on here is responsible for stirring up strife and an attitude of racial prejudice that fosters the killing of Blacks by police officers.

If anything, the Policemen's Benevolent Association rep is further stirring up strife. There are people that are attempting to use the killing of these officers as a political tool to stop the current movement.

It's not gonna work.

I didn't realize there was an "anti-black" crowd here. Oh wait, you mean the lefties that encourage handing out entitlements and special privileges to "minorities" and illegal aliens?

They aren't making things any better by treating certain segments of society as lesser people who deserve an ever increasing share of other people's labor and property.
 

poncho

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The last thing the race hustlers want is things to get better.

If there were no crisis the government wouldn't have the pretexts it needs to grab more power and the media would have nothing but Kim Kardashian's derriere to focus on.
 

church mouse guy

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This case was just another example of a jihadist motivated by his religion. NYC is too politically correct to level with the American people.
 
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