Who is Sanctified in Hebrews 10:29?

[vooks]

Don't feel bad, I have been shirking my responsibilities and will have to get back to them in earnest myself, lol.

See you when you get back, Vooks.


God bless.

I'm back , but not for long

 

[Darrell C]

I'm back , but not for long

Your back just in time for me to say good-bye, lol.

Lord willing I will stop back by, but, it's time to find a new field.


God bless.

 

[vooks]

Did the disciples abide in Christ?

Yes they did

We would have to forget that they all abandoned Him, according to His Word.

But that is equating fleeing from abiding, which is silly because there were other instances they were not with Jesus physically such as when they had been sent to buy food

We would have to forget that Peter denied he even knew Him.

Yes and he was restored in under 72hrs. He was remorseful throughout and was part of the ones early to the grave

We would have to forget that Peter and several disciples went back to fishing for fish, rather than men.

Plain silly. Paul made tents, Peter stayed with another tanner at Joppa. They did work and secular vocation is not forsaking their faith

When did the disciples return to ministry for Christ, Vooks?

They had NEVER ceased ministry

To say they were "abiding in Christ" during the time Christ is taken, murdered, buried, Resurrected, and then returning to Heaven...

...certainly can't be taken out of Scripture...it has to be imposed into it.

They were in Christ all along.

And that is what most do. They fail to see that the disciples did not abide in Christ in the same understanding imposed into what "abiding" means.

Forgetting what Christ taught is not failure to abide.

"Abiding in Christ" is taught to mean remaining faithful, and if one does not do that they lose their salvation.

Yes it does @Darrell C, without faith it is impossible to please God. Drop yours and you can bet you will resurrect with other sinners only to be cast in hell

And all it takes is to properly place a number of issues in their proper context to understand the Lord's teaching here.

So what is the vine which is not the True Vine. I'll give you a hint, Vooks, you can see Paul use this same imagery in Romans 11, which is, surprise surprise, another passage that the L.O.S.T. use to teach their doctrine.

Well, that kind of wresting does make people faithful in Church attendance, and it does help fill the tithing baskets...


God bless.

The Vine metaphor has been used severally in scriptures and it is plain stupid superimposing them because each context is DIFFERENT. When you do, you end up with idiotic arguments such as the 'Not The True Vine'