Who is the Author of Sin - Micro refutation of Calvinism

[KenH]

Originally posted by TheRadicalOne:
I believe God allows sin, but I DONT BELIEVE HE ORDAINS SIN.

Radical,

I agree with your statement.

Now do you agree with me that God uses the sin He allows to accomplish His purposes, e.g., the crucifixion of Christ Jesus?

Christian regards,

Ken
A Spurgeonite

[ September 09, 2002, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Ken Hamilton ]

 

[TheRadicalOne]

Originally posted by Ken Hamilton:

Didn't you call Calvinism a mess earlier in this thread?

I wrote that Calvin's resoning in THIS TOPIC is a mess.

Calvinism is an understanding of how the gospel works. To call Calvinism a mess is, in essence, to call the gospel of God's free grace a mess, in my honest opinion.
John Calvin taught the doctrines of God's free grace, as did Augustine, as did the apostle Paul.

That's your personal point of view and reasoning. But please have the humility to keep that for yourself and not using your "personal" conclusions to judge those who are not followers of Calvin. For me that is nothing but arrogance and intolarance.

----------(Please don't delete my message Pastor Larry)

 

[TheRadicalOne]

Originally posted by Ken Hamilton:

Let me bring you up to date. Ray believes most people will be damned to hell. I, as a Spurgeonite, believe most people will be in heaven.

Wow, a true Spurgeonite. By the way you are valiant for admiting that belief in public, some ultra-Calvinist will judge you as Arminian for that as they did to Spurgeon

 

[KenH]

Perhaps, Radical, instead of accusing Calvinists of blaspheming God and accusing Calvinists of saying that God ordains or makes people sin, you should start a new thread or bump up an old thread on the sovereignty of God.

Perhaps by eliminating some of the perjorative language you use on this narrow piece, the subject could be discussed more easily by expanding it to include all areas of God's sovereignty.

Christian regards,

Ken
A Spurgeonite

 

[TheRadicalOne]

Originally posted by Ken Hamilton:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by TheRadicalOne:
I believe God allows sin, but I DONT BELIEVE HE ORDAINS SIN.

Radical,

I agree with your statement.

Now do you agree with me that God uses the sin He allows to accomplish His purposes, e.g., the crucifixion of Christ Jesus?
</font>[/QUOTE]Yes, Ken, I definitely agree.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by TheRadicalOne:
some ultra-Calvinist will judge you as Arminian for that as they did to Spurgeon

Actually, Radical, in this forum it's the non-Calvinists who believe most people will be in hell. It's a lot of we Calvinists who are insisting that it may very well be that most people will be in heaven.

Christian regards,

Ken
A Spurgeonite

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by TheRadicalOne:
Yes, Ken, I definitely agree.

Well, then, I guess our little debate is over on this subject.

Christian regards,

Ken
A Spurgeonite

 

[Primitive Baptist]

There will only be a remnant in each age who are teaching and preaching the true gospel, but it does not mean they, and they alone, will be in heaven. That is why the Primitive Baptists insist that the gospel saves us in time, not in eternity. If the gospel does, it will only be the true gospel. If you believe that way, only few will surely be in heaven. After all, there are not that many Primitive Baptists (Just kidding!)

 

[Ray Berrian]

Don't kid yourself; the true Gospel comes back to all Christians who believe John 3:16. This is the true Gospel.

 

[ScottEmerson]

Originally posted by Ken Hamilton:
Actually, Radical, in this forum it's the non-Calvinists who believe most people will be in hell. It's a lot of we Calvinists who are insisting that it may very well be that most people will be in heaven.

BTW, the non-Calvinists are also the one with spiritual backing instead of an exchatology of hope without such textual proof.