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Who is the Serpents Seed/Offspring !

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Revmitchell

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Clarity is there if you would not be evasive of it!
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If you are going to use the word "evasive" you should end the sentence there. If you are going to use "it" after you need to use the word "evade" and drop "of".

In fact never mind the whole sentence structure is so twisted there is no recovering from it.

It would best be worded:

"What I posted is clear. Your disagreement with that is simply an attempt to evade my points."


On another note, your refusal to answer questions for clarity only prove that you do not have any other motive but one. That motive is to control the discussion and keep the subject framed in the singular way that you want it. It is a debate tactic and a poor one at that.

I believe that you do this because you cannot defend your position well and you are afraid to have an honest discussion.
 
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savedbymercy

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Revmitchell said:
If you are going to use the word "evasive" you should end the sentence there. If you are going to use "it" after you need to use the word "evade" and drop "of".

In fact never mind the whole sentence structure is so twisted there is no recovering from it.

It would best be worded:

"What I posted is clear. Your disagreement with that is simply an attempt to evade my points."


On another note, your refusal to answer questions for clarity only prove that you do not have any other motive but one. That motive is to control the discussion and keep the subject framed in the singular way that you want it. It is a debate tactic and a poor one at that.

I believe that you do this because you cannot defend your position well and you are afraid to have an honest discussion.
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Did you want to discuss any points I made in this thread ?
 
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savedbymercy

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Was Adam the Federal Head of all mankind by nature ?

Was Adam the Federal Head of all mankind by nature as his Creation ? Now many of you would answer yes to this question, however I don't believe that is accurate according to the scriptures, instead I believe the scripture teaches that Adam was the Federal head and representative of all men who were created/made in the Image and Likeness of God Gen 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

James 3:9

9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

And we believe that all who were thusly made in the Image and Likeness of God, and because God is Immutable in His Purpose, they shall be confirmed in the Image and Likeness, as they shall be conformed to the Image of Christ, who is God Rom 8:29

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

2 Cor 3:18

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

You see, Adam and mankind in him being made in the Image and Likeness of God, it was not related to their physical Creation out of the dust, but in their Spiritual Creation, in accordance with being Chosen in Christ, their Heavenly Head before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children/sons by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

In this lied their being Made in the Image and Likeness of God !

Now all the rest of mankind, not having been predestinated unto the Adoption of Sons by Jesus Christ, or not being predestinated to the Image of the Son Rom 8:29, they were never originally in Adam when he was made in the Image and Likeness of God here Gen 1:26 !
 
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savedbymercy said:
Was Adam the Federal Head of all mankind by nature as his Creation ? Now many of you would answer yes to this question, however I don't believe that is accurate according to the scriptures, instead I believe the scripture teaches that Adam was the Federal head and representative of all men who were created/made in the Image and Likeness of God Gen 1:26

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

James 3:9

9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

And we believe that all who were thusly made in the Image and Likeness of God, and because God is Immutable in His Purpose, they shall be confirmed in the Image and Likeness, as they shall be conformed to the Image of Christ, who is God Rom 8:29

29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

2 Cor 3:18

18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

You see, Adam and mankind in him being made in the Image and Likeness of God, it was not related to their physical Creation out of the dust, but in their Spiritual Creation, in accordance with being Chosen in Christ, their Heavenly Head before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children/sons by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

In this lied their being Made in the Image and Likeness of God !

Now all the rest of mankind, not having been predestinated unto the Adoption of Sons by Jesus Christ, or not being predestinated to the Image of the Son Rom 8:29, they were never originally in Adam when he was made in the Image and Likeness of God here Gen 1:26 !
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Adam had many sons and daughters. Which ones were not originally in Adam, and therefore not made in the image and likeness of God?
 
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savedbymercy

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Adam had many sons and daughters. Which ones were not originally in Adam, and therefore not made in the image and likeness of God?
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Ok, now, did you understand the points I made with scripture ? Prove that you did, then the discussion is on !
 
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Don

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savedbymercy said:
Ok, now, did you understand the points I made with scripture ? Prove that you did, then the discussion is on !
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Your point was that Adam and those predestined--chosen--by God were made in His image spiritually; that the rest of mankind is not.

My question: Adam had many sons and daughters. Which ones were not originally in Adam, and therefore not made in the image and likeness of God?
 
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savedbymercy

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Your point was that Adam and those predestined--chosen--by God were made in His image spiritually; that the rest of mankind is not.

My question: Adam had many sons and daughters. Which ones were not originally in Adam, and therefore not made in the image and likeness of God?
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What is stated in the very last paragraph in the post beginning with the word NOW ?
 
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Don

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savedbymercy said:
What is stated in the very last paragraph in the post beginning with the word NOW ?
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Now all the rest of mankind, not having been predestinated unto the Adoption of Sons by Jesus Christ, or not being predestinated to the Image of the Son Rom 8:29, they were never originally in Adam when he was made in the Image and Likeness of God here Gen 1:26 !
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Now please answer my question.
 
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Two seedism at work people. Those that fell in Adam will be restored, those that fell in Cain will not.


Then this same poster advocates a JW doctrine, too.
 
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Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?[Rom. 9:21]

The 'same lump of clay' is all of mankind that came from Adam. The 'special purposes' are the sheep and the 'some for common use' the goats.

What that poster is stating is the fall of Adam affected the sheep only, and they will be restored. The fall of Cain affected the goats, and they will not be restored. Thereby, he is stating two falls, two seeds, two seedism teaching at it pinnacle.
 
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BrotherJoseph

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SovereignGrace said:
Two seedism at work people. Those that fell in Adam will be restored, those that fell in Cain will not.


Then this same poster advocates a JW doctrine, too.
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Brother Sov,

It is always entertaining reading the exchanges between you and brother SavedByMercy on the threads! LOL
 
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