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Who won the debate yesterday?

steaver

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why would you take Rubio over Cruz? seriously, Rubio is not what this country needs.

Rubio is a lost Roman Catholic, Cruz is a saved southern baptist.
How do you know Rubio is a "lost" Roman Catholic? And how do you know Cruz is a "saved" Southern Baptist?
 

righteousdude2

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In my opinion Marco Rubio shined above the others who also put out good performances. I especially liked how Rubio made it clear that marriage is between a man and a woman, spoke of persecuted christians in america and other places, and just put out a overall performance despite the liberal ABCNews that said he did poorly. Ben Carson also had some good things to say as did Cruz. I think the only candidate that showed poor taste was Chris Christie but thats my opinion and others may not agree. What say you?

Well, if you really care, because I thought this was a "who won" and you seem to be advocating for your candidate?!

Let me say this .... as to who won, I would have to say the people who were curious enough to watch. Each debate gives us more of an idea of each candidate Evan, and in my eyes, we all won as the cream is finally coming to the top.

And that in no way means bubble boy, or bubble governor won. It showed me more about who they are. Was I impressed. Not going to offer that, because in this type of post, it would TMI,. Whistling
 

righteousdude2

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why would you take Rubio over Cruz? seriously, Rubio is not what this country needs.

Rubio is a lost Roman Catholic, Cruz is a saved southern baptist.
why would you take Rubio over Cruz? seriously, Rubio is not what this country needs.

Rubio is a lost Roman Catholic, Cruz is a saved southern baptist.

May I simply add ... that for you to be stating that one man is saved because he claims to be SBC, versus you bias that Roman Catholics are lost, is way above your PAYGRADE as a believer. The only qualified person to make that determination is God at either the BEMA Seat judgement or the great white throne judgement. I know numerous Roman Catholics who have received Jesus as Savior and been water baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost. Likewise, I know mant Baptist with questionable witnesses for Jesus.

That is my opinion. Selah .... Shalom!
 

righteousdude2

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I think he may like the idea of 'Vice President Cruz', along with some of the others that would settle for VP. Also bear in mind Trump is very popular in NH and all of them want to make a good showing in that primary.

Rubio or Cruz would be good choices to fill the ambassadorship in Benghazi.
 

evangelist6589

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why would you take Rubio over Cruz? seriously, Rubio is not what this country needs.

Rubio is a lost Roman Catholic, Cruz is a saved southern baptist.

Rubio says that Jesus died for his sin and is the savior of the world. He also advocates other Christian values for example he is against abortion and he is for Biblical marriage. I am surprised you would vote for Cruz, especially since he probably uses the NIV.
 

Jordan Kurecki

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Rubio says that Jesus died for his sin and is the savior of the world. He also advocates other Christian values for example he is against abortion and he is for Biblical marriage. I am surprised you would vote for Cruz, especially since he probably uses the NIV.
So do Jehovah's Witnesses? Do you think that means all JW's are saved?
If you ask any Catholic if Jesus is their Savior they will almost all claim it, I know this because we go door to door every Saturday and 8/10 people are Catholic. my Pastor knows a Catholic who claimed they received Christ as savior...it came out that they think that means taking the Eucharist...the point is most of them think having Jesus as their saviour means taking the sacraments and doing good works, to most of them "having Jesus as savior" means being a good Catholic.

This is nonsense, What king of saved person stays in the religious whorish system that is the Catholic Church?

And yeah Cruz probably isn't a KJV guy, but that still doesn't mean he's not saved.

Huge difference between using a different bible translation, and being part of a religious system that teaches works for salvation....

Do I know for sure if either of them are saved? No. But if I go off their backgrounds, it's pretty obvious that the chances of Rubio being saved are slim, and I think it's a high chance that Cruz is saved.

Beside all that stuff, Cruz has better policies, I think Rubio is a RINO:

-In 2007, he used the left's anti-science climate scaremongering nonsense to push for a massive taxpayer-funded "green" movement in Florida.

-In June of this year, he responded to the Supreme Court'sblatantly illegal invention of federal marriage rights for homosexuals (at the expense of actual constitutional rights like state sovereignty and free religious exercise) by instantlysurrendering on the issue and demanding that we "abide by the law"...as if accepting lawless, arbitrary edicts from unaccountable, un-elected activist judges weren't the complete and utter abandonment the rule of law. He also then stated that he would attend a homosexual wedding.

-In January of 2014, he supported extending taxpayer-funded joblessness (unemployment checks).

-In March of 2013, he ignored all the facts and evidence to perpetuate the left's wildlyerroneous misinformation about what destroyed the economy in 2008, falsely blaming the banks and "not enough government," rather than the relentless federal attacks on the housing market that directly imploded the housing market and crashed the economy.

-In March of 2010, he argued that the Federal Government must provide alternatives to employer-based insurance system (which is not an authorized federal power under the Constitution).

http://www.examiner.com/article/rino-report-on-marco-rubio
 

evangelist6589

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So do Jehovah's Witnesses? Do you think that means all JW's are saved?
If you ask any Catholic if Jesus is their Savior they will almost all claim it, I know this because we go door to door every Saturday and 8/10 people are Catholic. my Pastor knows a Catholic who claimed they received Christ as savior...it came out that they think that means taking the Eucharist...the point is most of them think having Jesus as their saviour means taking the sacraments and doing good works, to most of them "having Jesus as savior" means being a good Catholic.

This is nonsense, What king of saved person stays in the religious whorish system that is the Catholic Church?

And yeah Cruz probably isn't a KJV guy, but that still doesn't mean he's not saved.

Huge difference between using a different bible translation, and being part of a religious system that teaches works for salvation....

Do I know for sure if either of them are saved? No. But if I go off their backgrounds, it's pretty obvious that the chances of Rubio being saved are slim, and I think it's a high chance that Cruz is saved.

Beside all that stuff, Cruz has better policies, I think Rubio is a RINO:

-In 2007, he used the left's anti-science climate scaremongering nonsense to push for a massive taxpayer-funded "green" movement in Florida.

-In June of this year, he responded to the Supreme Court'sblatantly illegal invention of federal marriage rights for homosexuals (at the expense of actual constitutional rights like state sovereignty and free religious exercise) by instantlysurrendering on the issue and demanding that we "abide by the law"...as if accepting lawless, arbitrary edicts from unaccountable, un-elected activist judges weren't the complete and utter abandonment the rule of law. He also then stated that he would attend a homosexual wedding.

-In January of 2014, he supported extending taxpayer-funded joblessness (unemployment checks).

-In March of 2013, he ignored all the facts and evidence to perpetuate the left's wildlyerroneous misinformation about what destroyed the economy in 2008, falsely blaming the banks and "not enough government," rather than the relentless federal attacks on the housing market that directly imploded the housing market and crashed the economy.

-In March of 2010, he argued that the Federal Government must provide alternatives to employer-based insurance system (which is not an authorized federal power under the Constitution).

http://www.examiner.com/article/rino-report-on-marco-rubio

Cruz is also a good candidate. Not sure who I'd vote for between the two.
 
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