Then your vote will go to Hillary.
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Who won the debate?
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Then your vote will go to Hillary.
I don't like either candidate, I'm not voting for either one, and you say my vote will go for Hillary. Hmmm....
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I'm a bit surprised to say this, but I think Trump won the debate (but I did miss the first half). Just after the debate the commentators hit him on his comment to Clinton (which was in response to a dig she made towards him) and his comment about accepting the results of the election. I know people infer different things, but I really did not take Trump's comments to be what the commentators made them out to be. In the end, for me the actions of the media validated Trump's concerns.
So, I give that one to Trump...perhaps even more than the second debate. Trump came off as a business man turn politics after focusing on his company for so many years (taking advantage of tax laws, etc.) and perhaps not as up on politics as Clinton. But Clinton came off as a criminal who is not locked up because of politics. I say Trump won that one.
So, I give that one to Trump...perhaps even more than the second debate. Trump came off as a business man turn politics after focusing on his company for so many years (taking advantage of tax laws, etc.) and perhaps not as up on politics as Clinton. But Clinton came off as a criminal who is not locked up because of politics. I say Trump won that one.
If you don't vote for either one then you are voting for Trump, don't ya know? If you don't want Trump then you need to vote for Hillary. And if you don't want Hillary then you need to vote for Trump. And if you vote for neither then you are voting for both because not voting for Trump is voting for Hillary and not voting for Hillary is voting for Trump. It's that new math they teach now.
Zaac
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Some of you are truly delusional. ain't too many folks on here supporting Hillary and ITL certainly isn't. Y'all are just trying to keep your chins up in the midst of the water tickling your Adam's apple. The ship is sinking, Get off.
Reality is that Trump lost. You've got to be able to form coherent sentences and actually explain a policy or two to win a debate.
And you expect us to vote for another candidate. Like I've commented before, the only candidate that fits your requirements in the last hundred years was William Jennings Bryan and he's dead.
Zaac
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So you watched the SECOND half and thought he won?
Stop being naive Jon. He meant exactly what he said and has since doubled down and said he won't accept the results unless he wins.
Yet he is the one who keeps having to fight criminal charges. What debate were you watching?
Zaac
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I expect Christians to honor Christ. And if the lot of you think that supporting that man and his wickedness is honoring Christ, then it's time for Christ to get us and our pointing folks to hell out of the way.
I think it is you that is delusional Zaac. Trump is the candidate to choose. How can you miss this? Can anyone meet your standards?
No no no Zaac. It's his positions and the party we are voting for. Trump is his own worst enemy but he is no doubt better than evil Hillary.
I believe he meant exactly what he said (not necessarily what you heardSo you watched the SECOND half and thought he won?
Stop being naive Jon. He meant exactly what he said and has since doubled down and said he won't accept the results unless he wins.
Yet he is the one who keeps having to fight criminal charges. What debate were you watching?
). But yes, I think he won. Someone must have reeled him in, and for me he came off much better than Clinton.
Zaac
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Then stick the bumper sticker on your car. Get the tshirt and hit the pavement talking about sharing the Gospel. Be prepared to be less successful than you already have been.
Miss what? That God hasn't called us to be yoked tot hat which is against Him? Yes how could I possibly miss THAT?
Certainly none of the folks on the current ballot.
No, it's perfectly normal for two people to see the same event differently. It depends on who is watching - I was watching Hillary closer because she was the one with more to lose. She won in that one's eyes just when she gave a shoutout to PP.
And her answer on partial-birth abortion alone was enough for me to never want to vote for her. It was abstract and detached.
And her answer on partial-birth abortion alone was enough for me to never want to vote for her. It was abstract and detached.
I just don't understand that - if you really hated both of these people, seems like you wouldn't have this much interest, much less watching both of these people bicker back and forth for an hour and a half
Zaac
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You have got to be one of the most without a clue excuses for an evangelist I think I've ever encountered. And I don't mean for that to sound harsh. But what on earth do you think the purpose of evangelism is?
What does Scripture say?There simply is no way or you or any other Christian is supporting that man and is serious about evangelism. Do you realize that a lost world doesn't care about for WHAT you say you're voting? Their concern is the WHO.
And the WHO is an adultering, sexual assaulting, pornography promoting, gambling promoting, misogynistic, bigoted, narcissistic,greed-infested liar.
So what are you gonna say to any lost person that makes them want to listen to you after THAT?
So keep deluding yourself into thinking that this is just about what you're supporting. Nope, the stumbling block is the WHO you're supporting.
Again, you and folks who think like you just don't seem to get it. Your priority is supposed to be pointing folks to Christ and teaching them to obey everything that HE commands.
Yet, the lot of you keep making excuses for why what YOU want has to come before that commission in the way of you supporting that which is against Christ and eating your Christian witness like a rabid hyena.
Zaac
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I do too. And since he's doubled down on it, I KNOW he meant exactly what he said.
(not necessarily what you heard
I heard what the rest of America heard and that he has reinforced by saying he will only accept the results if he wins.
I don't "hate" them, I just don't think they are very good people, and could never vote for them.
I'm a political junkie. I follow local, state, and national elections. I've been doing it for almost 50 years, ever since I went door to door as an 10 year old sticking campaign literature on doorknobs for a candidate for US Congress. When I was in 8th grade a classmate and I "ran" George McGovern's campaign on a computer simulation for a class assignment. (We lost but made it much closer than the actual results.) I've got videotapes I made off the air of a Bush/Dukakis debates; also have the first George W. Bush and Al Gore debate on tape. So, it's kind of a hobby for me to follow campaigns, see where they are spending the money, follow the polls, etc. It's intellectual sport.
And you have yet to state an alternative viable or not. And I wasn't speaking of just this election. I was applying your criteria to all the elections since W.J. Bryan was the Democratic candidate.
Zaac
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An alternative viable for whom? Jesus Christ hasn't changed so there shouldn't be any dilemma about who Christians support.
You could have started with Washington and the approach should have been the same. We are not to yoke ourselves to that which is against Christ.
Why do I need to state a viable alternative? Write in your own alternative who honors Christ. Perhaps people say viable because they think its paramount that they win or have the chance to win.
Then stick the bumper sticker on your car. Get the tshirt and hit the pavement talking about sharing the Gospel. Be prepared to be less successful than you already have been.
Miss what? That God hasn't called us to be yoked tot hat which is against Him? Yes how could I possibly miss THAT?
Certainly none of the folks on the current ballot.
I do not mix politics with evangelism.
Zaac
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You don't have to. The lost world will assume that you do. And after seeing so many evangelicals rally around a Mormon who rejects Christ in 2012 and now the at any cost support of a very, very wicked Donald Trump, you don't have to mix it. They'll mix it for you and be right on point about the hypocrisy of your type of "evangelism".