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Who's fault is it Hillary lost?

Revmitchell

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Nothing to do with what?
Meddling with the election?
If so, how do you know that Rev?

Hank

Wikileaks has said they were not the source. So has one other person. It is easy for the dems to point fingers at them so they can try to undermine Trump. The CIA refused to show up to a private meeting with congress to talk about it. Nothing has been substantiated but there is all kinds of blathering about it.
 

blessedwife318

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Hillary and the DNC own this loss. They picked a very unlikable scandal ridden women to run and just expected Obama voters to fall in line.

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Rob_BW

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Can we blame NeverTrumpers for Hillary's loss?

I mean, at least that way they can feel like they had some effect on the election. I'd hate for them to feel left out.
 
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HankD

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Wikileaks has said they were not the source. So has one other person. It is easy for the dems to point fingers at them so they can try to undermine Trump. The CIA refused to show up to a private meeting with congress to talk about it. Nothing has been substantiated but there is all kinds of blathering about it.
Rev you said they had nothing to do with "it" (presumably meddling with the election).

I am saying that they at least tried. I have no hard evidence either.

The Russians (Actually Kiev Ukrainians) hacked my checking account about 3 years ago and robbed us of several hundred dollars which the bank reimbursed.

If they can hack a national bank they can do what ever they want (at least try) to whomever they want.

I have no doubt that they were at least trying to make trouble or capture data during the election.
We have done the same to them as well.
This is thievery and espionage that has been going on since WWII (even before).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.99886b5b7b1a


HankD
 

Revmitchell

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Rev you said they had nothing to do with "it" (presumably meddling with the election).

I am saying that they at least tried. I have no hard evidence either.

The Russians (Actually Kiev Ukrainians) hacked my checking account about 3 years ago and robbed us of several hundred dollars which the bank reimbursed.

If they can hack a national bank they can do what ever they want (at least try) to whomever they want.

I have no doubt that they were at least trying to make trouble or capture data during the election.
We have done the same to them as well.
This is thievery and espionage that has been going on since WWII (even before).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f8e0dd91dc7_story.html?utm_term=.99886b5b7b1a


HankD

I see no evidence they tried, however, the Russians, china, and any number of other countries have been working to hack our systems and gain our secrets for eons just as we have been doing to them. This is nothing new. Trying to attach this to the election is just liberal blather that has no real support.
 

HankD

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I see no evidence they tried, however, the Russians, china, and any number of other countries have been working to hack our systems and gain our secrets for eons just as we have been doing to them. This is nothing new. Trying to attach this to the election is just liberal blather that has no real support.
I believe you are wrong about the trying part Rev.

There is a technical reason for the ease of hacking and it must be fixed soon but it will have an enormous impact.
Until then everybody (including Russia and the Ukraine) is vulnerable.
I believe you would be shocked to know how vulnerable we are.

You can protect yourself by purchasing encryption technology for data you send out of your computer that you want to be unseen by anyone but to whom you send it.

It's an inconvenience but the alternative is worse.

Your email is an open book to hackers.

HankD
 
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777

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That guy apparently thinks the 2000 and 2004 elections were rigged as well. Doubt the Russians were the source of the leak, much less hacked into even one voting machine.

I don't think Hillary even had much of a chance, in retrospect. Americans were tired of having a Democrat for POTUS but the only real flaw I saw in the execution of her campaign was that she took states like Michigan and Wisconsin for granted and shouldn't have.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Who's fault is it Hillary lost?

I'd say, divine providence steered her into a ditch (for being an evil witch);)
 

HankD

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All she had to do Hank is tell voters she was going to be an extension to Barack Obama....how freaking clueless could she have been!?!
Yes, There were many things she should have/could have done. She should have had a Kellyanne Conway.

HankD
 

Rolfe

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Do you think 'Never Trumpers' voted for Clinton?

This one did not.

Many have said that to fail to support Trump by voting for anyone other than him equated to a vote for Clinton. That type of thinking is tribalism, which allows no flexibility for the freedom to follow one's conscience or to vote one's principles. Without that flexibility, Conservatism as we now know it, is dead...or at least in exile.

I hope that Trump proves me wrong, but I do not think that his Presidency will be all that his admirers think that it will be.
 

Revmitchell

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I believe you are wrong about the trying part Rev.

There is a technical reason for the ease of hacking and it must be fixed soon but it will have an enormous impact.
Until then everybody (including Russia and the Ukraine) is vulnerable.
I believe you would be shocked to know how vulnerable we are.

You can protect yourself by purchasing encryption technology for data you send out of your computer that you want to be unseen by anyone but to whom you send it.

It's an inconvenience but the alternative is worse.

Your email is an open book to hackers.

HankD

Hillary has yall worried about the Russians when the real problem is Hillary, the attitude dislayed in those emails and the insecure way they emailed each other. Had that never happened we would not know squat.
 
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