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Why all the hullabaloo over AI?

Van

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If we have been trained in critical thinking and critical reading, what would we make of this statement:

"The AI runs off a code. The codes are written by people who hate GOD, hate Christians and hate America."

Is is likely that AI runs off codes only written by atheists, or does code grow over times as 2.0 and later updates enhance its capabilities. Could a non-believer desire to confine the code to what is known rather than what is asserted? Truth is our friend, if we believe in the Truth.
 
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Van

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How about the Movie and TV show Logans Run.....
Logan's run was about the realization that the cultural norm sustained a fiction, and that in order to sustain that fiction, lethal force was utilized. The dark ages dressed in drag. Consider today's fictions, man-made global warming, America's systemic racism, the News Media is technically competent. Will any of us be surprised if Mr. Trump is assassinated because he threatens the status quo?
 

canadyjd

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…Could a non-believer desire to confine the code to what is known rather than what is asserted? Truth is our friend, if we believe in the Truth.
Except the non believer writing the code doesn’t care about truth, only pushing an anti-God, anti-Christian agenda.

And when people go to the AI with questions and it regurgitates the propaganda of the code writer, truth is lost. Access to truth is lost.

peace to you
 

Van

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Except the non believer writing the code doesn’t care about truth, only pushing an anti-God, anti-Christian agenda.

And when people go to the AI with questions and it regurgitates the propaganda of the code writer, truth is lost. Access to truth is lost.

peace to you
Once again you pretend you know what code writers all believe. Your assertion is without basis in reality.
AI can relay what it considers appropriate, whether truth or error. Over time efforts will be made to minimize errors.
 

canadyjd

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Once again you pretend you know what code writers all believe. Your assertion is without basis in reality.
AI can relay what it considers appropriate, whether truth or error. Over time efforts will be made to minimize errors.
Once again, you refuse to recognize reality. Listen to what these people say. Look at the results of the search algorithms.

You are dreaming of Star Trek while we move toward 1984.

We are going to disagree. Thanks for the conversation

peace to you
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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I've shared one of these before, and these are benign, but you can see how this can be easily malicious. This podcast is 100% AI Generated. The voices are generated by AI. The entire conversation is made by AI. Everything is made up in this. Nothing is real. Fake podcast created by AI. This is AI talking to itself.

Here's another example, something I would say is malicious. A PAC aligned with DeSantis created an ad. This ad was produced with a mixture of AI-generated images and real images all cobbled together. Half of this ad is not reality. Half of these images are fake. Which ones are the fake ones?
https://twitter.com/DeSantisWarRoom/status/1665799058303188992
 
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Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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Do we, humans, create fake reality? Of course, It may be called fiction or Mythology or delusion but every error in our apprehension of reality can be disparaged as fake reality. No need to pretend the movie "War Games" pictures reality.
The difference being that when we humans create fake reality, we know it's fake.

When AI creates fake reality, we don't know if it's fake or real.

Will AI convince humanity that God is a fiction or will AI lead us to the Truth? I think it will lead us to the Truth.
Likely the first option. My coworkers are 90% woke where god either doesn't exist, or is a woman, and the feeding pattern of data they feed to train AIs reflect that. Currently, AI will be a reflection of modern wokethink.

Most Software Engineers, myself excepted, live in urban areas that vote for Wokeism. When you look at a population of Software Engineers you'll find 80% of the Americans are Woke, and the remaining 20% are Indians. The Indians aren't as woke as the Americans, but they still are tainted by it.

AI is like an extremely smart child and currently the "parents" are all a bunch of 20 to 30 year old woke yuppies, or 20 to 30 year old partially woke Hindus in the U.S.

Who knows what China's makeup looks like, but their AI is likely more reality-based.
 

Van

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Once again, you refuse to recognize reality. Listen to what these people say. Look at the results of the search algorithms.

You are dreaming of Star Trek while we move toward 1984.

We are going to disagree. Thanks for the conversation

peace to you
More claims of mind reading from the fountain of disagreement.
 
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canadyjd

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More claims of mind reading from the found of disagreement.
BTnGT gives a first hand account of code writers in post #29. Wingman68 gave the perfect meme in post #30.

BTW, the AI (spellcheck) changed your post from “fountain of disagreement” to “found of disagreement”. LOL

Peace to you
 

Van

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The difference being that when we humans create fake reality, we know it's fake.

When AI creates fake reality, we don't know if it's fake or real.


Likely the first option. My coworkers are 90% woke where god either doesn't exist, or is a woman, and the feeding pattern of data they feed to train AIs reflect that. Currently, AI will be a reflection of modern wokethink.

Most Software Engineers, myself excepted, live in urban areas that vote for Wokeism. When you look at a population of Software Engineers you'll find 80% of the Americans are Woke, and the remaining 20% are Indians. The Indians aren't as woke as the Americans, but they still are tainted by it.

AI is like an extremely smart child and currently the "parents" are all a bunch of 20 to 30 year old woke yuppies, or 20 to 30 year old partially woke Hindus in the U.S.

Who knows what China's makeup looks like, but their AI is likely more reality-based.
No, we do not always or immediately know something is fake. Recall the Orson Welles War of the World Radio broadcast?
Yes, hoaxes are perpetrated upon us all the time, not just by villains aided by AI.
Your co-workers did not reject God because of AI, they were led astray by Satan, the World, and their fleshly lusts.
We do not know AI will not adhere to objective analysis of its input data.
Yes, AI could be slanted toward wokeism, but Mr. Musk might create a version slanted toward truth.
Yes, an information system that does not present truth is NVG.
 

DaveXR650

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AI can write code. There is fear that it will soon be able to adapt and possibly develop solutions and views that we can't readily trace to humans. It will soon be able to defend itself from our interference. I know this is true because I saw it on a Star Trek episode and it was all Capt. Kirk could do to get back control of the ship.
 

canadyjd

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AI can write code. There is fear that it will soon be able to adapt and possibly develop solutions and views that we can't readily trace to humans. It will soon be able to defend itself from our interference. I know this is true because I saw it on a Star Trek episode and it was all Capt. Kirk could do to get back control of the ship.
I think every version of the Star Trek universe (Original, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, Voyager) all had at least one episodes of AI going homicidal. The only one I can’t remember with such an episode is “Enterprise” with Scott Backula playing Captain Archer. If I think long enough, they probably had one too.

peace to you
 

canadyjd

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Looks like the wishes of the OP have been granted. I just saw a story about an AI “Jesus” that gives advice on religion, morals, relationships and so on.

I refuse to even read the story, as the very concept is heretical.

Come Lord Jesus!!!

peace to you
 
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