Why aren’t we calling the Oregon occupiers ‘terrorists?’

[Zaac]

Sorry Zaac but the way you spread the SPLC's talking points around here made me think you must be on their emailing list.

Oh well. I say the same about you and some mailing lists lol. But it's all well and good.

We agree on some things to be sure Zaac but I can't bring myself to agree what with those on the regressive left who are posing as liberals are saying. For the simple reason they speak with forked tongues out of both sides of their mouths.

That's all well and good too. I tend to support folks who seem to want to treat people the way that Christ did.

 

[poncho]

Oh well. I say the same about you and some mailing lists lol. But it's all well and good.

Yeah but you wouldn't be the first to do that.

That's all well and good too. I tend to support folks who seem to want to treat people the way that Christ did.

"Seem" to want to?

Christ told us to judge a tree by it's fruits not by it's bark. An apple tree "seems" to be a pear tree until the apples become visible.

 

[TCassidy]

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So you admit you lied. Good for you. Killed or threatened to be killed. Not just wanting to go to the wildlife refuge, which nobody was stopping them from doing.

If you would just be honest in the first place you would not have to post apologies, and copy proof of your lying.

 

[poncho]

 

[Zaac]

Yeah but you wouldn't be the first to do that.



"Seem" to want to?

Christ told us to judge a tree by it's fruits not by it's bark. An apple tree "seems" to be a pear tree until the apples become visible.

I say seem to because I have to wait to see the fruit. There are A LOT of folks who want to put on the guise of doing that which bears fruit . And then you find out their true motives.

 

[Zaac]

Talk about slanted. That was almost as bad as Fox NewsCautious

"We aren't terrorists. We're Americans who just want to fix this country".

They are terrorists. A 12 year old black child can't even stand in the park with a toy without being murdered. But let a bunch of good ole boys show up with their guns, and it's all let's wait and see.

Had a group of Blacks or Muslims shown up and taken over a federal building like that, there would already be body bags stacked.

They are terrorists and a whitewashed report from Infowars trying to make them seem harmless doesn't change that.

 

[InTheLight]

So you admit you lied. Good for you. Killed or threatened to be killed. Not just wanting to go to the wildlife refuge, which nobody was stopping them from doing.

If you would just be honest in the first place you would not have to post apologies, and copy proof of your lying.

Goalposts are no longer on the field anymore.

 

[poncho]

Talk about slanted. That was almost as bad as Fox NewsCautious

"We aren't terrorists. We're Americans who just want to fix this country".

They are terrorists. A 12 year old black child can't even stand in the park with a toy without being murdered. But let a bunch of good ole boys show up with their guns, and it's all let's wait and see.

Had a group of Blacks or Muslims shown up and taken over a federal building like that, there would already be body bags stacked.

They are terrorists and a whitewashed report from Infowars trying to make them seem harmless doesn't change that.

 

[Use of Time]

Goalposts are no longer on the field anymore.

I swear they must teach these mental gymnastics at an early age in Texas.

 

[Use of Time]

So you admit you lied. Good for you. Killed or threatened to be killed. Not just wanting to go to the wildlife refuge, which nobody was stopping them from doing.

If you would just be honest in the first place you would not have to post apologies, and copy proof of your lying.

What do you say you slow down and reread that whole exchange there Tex. You might realize just how ridiculous you are making yourself look with these claims of lying. Lets see if you can comprehend a sequential conversation on a message board. You are going to have to read all the words though. Try really hard and I know you will see the error here. Maybe you will find out that you owe both me and ITL an apology. I'm guessing your ego will prevent this from happening.

 

[Use of Time]

Carpro thinks my last post is dumb. What a surprise, the other Texan doesn't seem to understand it either. LOL.

 

[Zaac]

Not a single word of that changes what the BLM movement has done or is trying to do. And letting one black preacher speak negatively about them doesn't negate the positive things that far more black preachers have said about them and what they are doing.

That's a mitchell move. I expect more than that from you.

 

[HankD]

Nope. I didn't see any members of the BLM movement doing anything that amounted to domestic terrorism. I know there were a lot of people that the general public ASSUMED were BLM people just because it was easy to point the finger at the black folks who were trying to take a stand and marginalize what they were doing by calling them terrorists.

Taking a stand doesn't amount to terrorism.

Now there were a whole lot of straight criminals looting in Ferguson. But that doesn't amount to terrorism.

The folks in Oregon have SEIZED federal property at gunpoint in order to force the government to do something.

And if folks can't see the difference between that and what the legitimate members of BLM are doing, then

. That's one of the reasons they are doing it.

Because there may be a reverse difference Zaac. I think you already know the following:

OR
Have you forgotten how this nation was historically born? - As an act of rebellion to a "tyrannical" government. Remember the Declaration of Independence?

Therefore (most, many, some - pick your qualifier) Americans with this historical knowledge would say that these citizens "seizing" the so-called "government property" in Oregon are acting under the EXACT reason the founding fathers included the Second Amendment in the creation of the Bill of Rights.

Am I wrong?

I am not saying I am one of these folk but I am responding to your seeming enigma.

I personally see some serious storm clouds developing on the horizon (possibly) and this may be the beginning.

The proverbial "Divide et impera" principle (but from whom and from whence doth it come?)


HankD

 

[Don]

A 12 year old black child can't even stand in the park with a toy without being murdered. But let a bunch of good ole boys show up with their guns, and it's all let's wait and see.

I know I'm off-topic; but if you're gonna use Tamir Rice as an appeal to emotion regarding this topic, then let's be honest: A 12-year old black kid who was using a toy gun that had it's federally-required orange tip removed; who had been reported to police because he was waving it at pedestrians and passers-by (who, in other cases, have mistaken broomsticks and umbrellas for rifles); and who made a gesture towards the toy weapon in his belt when police arrived, obviously emulating a stereotype of resisting police authority.

 

[poncho]

Not a single word of that changes what the BLM movement has done or is trying to do. And letting one black preacher speak negatively about them doesn't negate the positive things that far more black preachers have said about them and what they are doing.

That's a mitchell move. I expect more than that from you.

 

[Zaac]

Because there may be a reverse difference Zaac. I think you already know the following:

OR
Have you forgotten how this nation was historically born? - As an act of rebellion to a "tyrannical" government. Remember the Declaration of Independence?

Therefore (most, many, some - pick your qualifier) Americans with this historical knowledge would say that these citizens "seizing" the so-called "government property" in Oregon are acting under the EXACT reason the founding fathers included the Second Amendment in the creation of the Bill of Rights.

Am I wrong?

I did touch on that Hank in another post when I mentioned the Boston Tea Party.

I am not saying I am one of these folk but I am responding to your seeming enigma.

No enigma. I said to Poncho that I was rather thrilled their actions were highlighting this gross injustice to the Hammond family at the hands of the government. It still amounts to the legal definition of terrorism. But again, so did the Boston Tea Party.

I personally see some serious storm clouds developing on the horizon (possibly) and this may be the beginning.

The proverbial "Divide et impera" principle (but from whom and from whence doth it come?)

Perhaps. This type of thing has flown under the radar for a long time. This reminds me of the type of stuff the IRS would do if you didn't do what they wanted. They'd basically bully people or threaten jail time to get folks to comply.

They want that land, specifically for its mineral rights. THAT's really why the Hammonds are going to jail. They wouldn't sale so now this whole controlled fire farce is being used.

 

[Zaac]

You know, he's a pastor and it's hard for me to take anything he says seriously when I read stuff like:

He has referred to himself as "the sodomite slayer"and stated, "I do think that anyone who promotes [homosexuality] as a lifestyle and tries to make it a national and international event and create warfare upon everybody else, then the appropriate response would be to stone them back to the Stone Age, or stone them back to hell."

Manning's views on homosexuality include the beliefs that "white homos are going to take the black woman’s man" and that President Obama is going to "use gay people to destroy the black community." He calls for the stoning of gay people and for Harlem to be a "homo-free zone."

In an interview with The Huffington Post, Manning stated, "The homosexual activists are flat-out lying about what Jesus would do regarding the detestable, abominable, diseased practice and act of homosexuality. They have been lying and saying that Jesus would simply love."Manning has stated that Starbucks will be "ground zero for Ebola" in the United States because homosexuals frequent the stores and "a lot of bodily fluids" are exchanged. Manning has also stated that Starbucks puts semen in its coffees, and that millions of people around the world "really think that the taste of semen is quite a flavor.

He's a loon.

 

[HankD]

I did touch on that Hank in another post when I mentioned the Boston Tea Party.



No enigma. I said to Poncho that I was rather thrilled their actions were highlighting this gross injustice to the Hammond family at the hands of the government. It still amounts to the legal definition of terrorism. But again, so did the Boston Tea Party.


Perhaps. This type of thing has flown under the radar for a long time. This reminds me of the type of stuff the IRS would do if you didn't do what they wanted. They'd basically bully people or threaten jail time to get folks to comply.

They want that land, specifically for its mineral rights. THAT's really why the Hammonds are going to jail. They wouldn't sale so now this whole controlled fire farce is being used.

Thanks

I probably would have caved and sold - I'm getting up there - in my 7th decade.

HankD

 

[poncho]

You know, he's a pastor and it's hard for me to take anything he says seriously when I read stuff like:

He's a loon.

I love this guy! He's got you and the #Black Lives Matter people pegged in this video. You "seem" to want white people to feel guilty about being white, you "seem" to enjoy the idea of seeing white people groveling and "walking on eggshells" to atone for something most white people aren't even guilty of.

It's hard for me to take anything you say serious when you keep using language that divides people along racial lines and accusing other Christians of being un - Christ like, evil and hateful for not doing the same. I hate to break this to you but Christ wouldn't act like that.

 

[TCassidy]

Try really hard and I know you will see the error here.

ITL lied. Tried to say I said people wanted to go to the refuge but couldn't. I never said that. I asked for evidence that people had been killed, injured, or even threatened.

I suggest it is you who should take a good reading comprehension class.