Why Calvin and not Luther?

[Rippon]

Yes, I've read that.

As one who majored in Church History (and theology!) you endorse the material that Cloud puts out? I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone.

The man couldn't even get the dates right, much less the rest of the article BJ cited.

That's his chief tactic when trying to deny historical facts

I have given quotes by more than two dozen legitimate Church History and Calvin scholars who consistently have put the lie to your reckless and sinful charges regarding Calvin.

You don't deal in facts regarding Calvin --you are indistinguishable from the hacks you cite.

and idolize persecutors and killers.

The Judgment Seat awaits you with your constant stream of such vile talk.

Get ready now for the rant: "Liar, liar, liar!"

Oh it certainly applies to you "Doc" Rebel.

 

[Yeshua1]

A Baptist would reject John Calvin's doctrine (as a whole) just as quick as he would reject that of Martin Luther as both stood in staunch opposition to doctrine that is distinctively Baptist. It is not fair to take one aspect of Calvin (i.e., soteriological doctrine that Beza expounded upon and systematized) as representative of the man’s life work, contribution or complete understanding. What many of us find is that John Calvin adequately and clearly expressed some biblical truths which were brought to the forefront as churches wrestled with and debated certain issues.

Calvin though did understand more clearly the truth of saved by grace alone, faith alone, as Luther still had some of his RCC theology creep into his take on the sacraments!

 

[Rebel]

As one who majored in Church History (and theology!) you endorse the material that Cloud puts out? I guess that shouldn't surprise anyone.

The man couldn't even get the dates right, much less the rest of the article BJ cited.

I have given quotes by more than two dozen legitimate Church History and Calvin scholars who consistently have put the lie to your reckless and sinful charges regarding Calvin.

You don't deal in facts regarding Calvin --you are indistinguishable from the hacks you cite.

The Judgment Seat awaits you with your constant stream of such vile talk.

Oh it certainly applies to you "Doc" Rebel.

Why should anyone listen to what you have to say? You can't communicate without insults and personal attacks. And despite the overwhelming evidence from many different people and sources, including the words from the mouths of the guilty parties themselves, you continue to deny the truth, which shows the truth is not in you. You have absolutely no integrity. You are as bad as those whom you erroneously defend.

And a word of warning: You should be very careful when you utter such things as I have put in bold. You are treading dangerous ground and are very close to the edge. God will not tolerate it. Despite my reaching out to you, you have shown no desire to make peace but continue in the same manner with all your insults, attacks, and falsehoods. You should take heed to what I am saying. God is patient, but His patience is not unlimited.

 

[Rippon]

Why should anyone listen to what you have to say?

Then be like a petulant child and put your little hands over your ears then.

despite the overwhelming evidence from many different people and sources, including the words from the mouths of the guilty parties themselves,

You are unhinged.

you continue to deny the truth,

On the contrary, I proclaim it.

which shows the truth is not in you.

You are filled with falsehood.

You have absolutely no integrity.

Absolutely, huh? You are in hyperbolic drive.

You are as bad as those whom you erroneously defend.

I wish I was "as bad" as John Calvin.

And a word of warning: You should be very careful when you utter such things as I have put in bold.

Oh? You think you will get a reprieve from judgment? You need to review Ro. 14:10,12;1 Cor. 4:5 and 2 Cor. 5:10.

You are treading dangerous ground and are very close to the edge.

You have long siince gone over the edge Mr. Rebel.

Despite my reaching out to you,

With your vile manner?!

You take the proverbial cake "Doc."

 

[Rebel]

Then be like a petulant child and put your little hands over your ears then.

You are unhinged.

On the contrary, I proclaim it.

You are filled with falsehood.

Absolutely, huh? You are in hyperbolic drive.

I wish I was "as bad" as John Calvin.

Oh? You think you will get a reprieve from judgment? You need to review Ro. 14:10,12;1 Cor. 4:5 and 2 Cor. 5:10.

You have long siince gone over the edge Mr. Rebel.

With your vile manner?!

You take the proverbial cake "Doc."

Please tone down the rhetoric and post as Christians ought to post.

This is addrressed to all involved here.