Why do British self-described “Christians” support pedophilia?

[Covenanter]

Covenanter said: ↑
Also our countries seem to be afraid of speaking up against the Israelis for their oppression of the Palestinians, including the killing & maiming of peaceful marchers, including children & paramedics. Also the detention of children who throw stones at tanks attacking their homes & schools with tear gas & skunkwater. "We" are encouraging them in the destruction of homes & villages so Jewish settlers can take over Palestinian homes, land & resources.

Hmm. You really support islam. You might want to educate yourself.

My concern has nothing to do with the victims being Muslim. They are oppressed people living without hope. Moreover their sad condition is not recognised by the world's great powers. Read my above quote again. Do you really support such action against civilians? Do you support the arrest & imprisonment of young children - & their maiming & murder by IDF & settlers?

The OP indicates a fear of holding evil Muslims to account because they are Muslims. Should we not hold evil Jews to account for their actions against Palestinian civilians?

Your cited videos in support of Israel against the Palestinians do not address the question. We are Christians.

There is no NT Scripture teaching, prophesying a return of the land promised to Israel to Jewish occupation & control, nor a restoration of a Jewish kingdom. Romans 9-11 discusses the situation of the Jewish establishment, aka Israel, continuing in unbelief. The Jews are assured of acceptance by God if they do not continue in unbelief. Many thousands of Jews did respond to the Gospel, as recorded in Acts. Paul & the other Apostles, as well as Jews scattered by persecution preached to their fellow Jews many having been dispersed centuries before.

When the European Jews were given Palestine as a homeland there was indeed resistance. The Jews were led by well-armed terrorist groups. They expelled many thousands of Palestinians from their homes, both Christian & Muslim, taking over villages & resources. Of course there was resistance, but after 6 years of WW2 the Arab countries were unable to drive the Jews out. Seems they would have accepted a quick victory, but not a prolonged struggle. Palestinian refugees have not been resettled, & many continue in refugee camps. Sadly the neighbouring countries have not allowed them to settle - the argument is that they have a homeland to which one day they may return.

Do you approve of the expulsion of Palestinians living peaceful in Jerusalem so it can be a Jewish city? The demolishing of homes & schools built on land claimed by settlers? Settlement sewage being directed onto villages & farmland? Palestinian water being taken by settlers, even wells being deliberately polluted? Ancient & new olive groves being destroyed? Homes, hospitals, schools utilities being repeatedly bombed? Farmland being sprayed with herbicides?

There are plenty of Christian videos as well as Jewish & Palestinian supporting what I write.

It not simply a matter of history & the Palestinians refusing to accept a peaceful settlement.

In line with the OP I am asking - "Why do the "Christian" world powers accept & support Israel as if it were above the standards of Biblical & common justice? As if the Christ rejecting Jews were to be blessed because they are Jews, & not accountable for their sins?

 

[Wingman68]

All the answers to your pleadings are spelled out in the Bible, over & over. Are you Christian or are you of the world? Be honest. It’s imperative.

 

[carpro]

Thoughts?

The simplest answer. They're not Christians at all.

 

[Covenanter]

From an Israeli organization linked by -

Posted by Vera Baboun, Mayor of Bethlehem. She is a Palestinian Christian.

"The full demolition of the restaurant and residence of Qassieh family in #Almakhrour Beit Jala in Bethlehem district by the Occupation. Five dunums land in Area C, owned by Qassieh family, one of the Christian Palestinian families who did and do their best to sustain in their own land. An agricultural land in the most beautiful green areas in Bethlehem. The family lost everything yesterday due to a claim that the Jewish National Fund has illegally claimed the land 50 years ago.
It is more than physical displacement. It's is a displacement of:
Dignity; Survival; Existance; Justice; Daily living.
Until when, do we as Palestinians, whether Christians or Muslims have to live this ever policy of displacement and injustice????"

 

[Covenanter]

The OP indicates a fear of holding evil Muslims to account because they are Muslims. Should we not hold evil Jews to account for their actions against Palestinian civilians?

All the answers to your pleadings are spelled out in the Bible, over & over. Are you Christian or are you of the world? Be honest. It’s imperative.

Of course they are spelled out in the Bible, over & over. God is concerned with justice without respect of persons.

Please read this report about a PBS objection to a PBS report.

‘Protests turn violent’ with ‘gunfire’ — PBS lies about its own report on Israeli attacks in Gaza

Why should Christians support the godless state of Israel? Many Jews do not.

 

[Wingman68]

Hopeless.

 

[Covenanter]

Hopeless.

Sad to read that. Look to Jesus, repent of your sin & find your hope in him who died to save you.

 

[Wingman68]

Sad to read that. Look to Jesus, repent of your sin & find your hope in him who died to save you.

I am sad for you. You refuse to take Him at His word. Who has a problem? The left seems to have convinced you that His words can be twisted to fit their narrative. Who would do that...........Satan.

 

[Covenanter]

I am sad for you. You refuse to take Him at His word. Who has a problem? The left seems to have convinced you that His words can be twisted to fit their narrative. Who would do that...........Satan.

If you have something to say, say it, and give supporting Scripture.

 

[MartyF]

My concern has nothing to do with the victims being Muslim. They are oppressed people living without hope. Moreover their sad condition is not recognised by the world's great powers. Read my above quote again. Do you really support such action against civilians? Do you support the arrest & imprisonment of young children - & their maiming & murder by IDF & settlers?

First, I would have to believe your quote was true in the manner presented. As you have given no evidence of "maiming and killing peaceful marchers", I would have to say that it is outright wrong or slanted to the point of being wrong. I didn't bring it up before because I knew your information was false.

A common example would the the "Boston Massacre" which wasn't a "massacre" nor the demonstrators peaceful. Then ensuing trial acquitted most the soldiers. None of the soldiers were considered murderers and hanged. The founding father John Adams defended them.

As for detaining children who "throw stones" - remember the story of David and Goliath. Throwing a stone is a deadly weapon. simple detention is the least of what the soldiers should do.

Skunkwater and tear gassing of homes is quite common in the U.S. for those who are dangerous and need to be apprehended.

You've basically have a big zero.

The OP indicates a fear of holding evil Muslims to account because they are Muslims. Should we not hold evil Jews to account for their actions against Palestinian civilians?

Sure. You haven't named any yet.

There is no NT Scripture teaching, prophesying a return of the land promised to Israel to Jewish occupation & control, nor a restoration of a Jewish kingdom. Romans 9-11 discusses the situation of the Jewish establishment, aka Israel, continuing in unbelief. The Jews are assured of acceptance by God if they do not continue in unbelief. Many thousands of Jews did respond to the Gospel, as recorded in Acts. Paul & the other Apostles, as well as Jews scattered by persecution preached to their fellow Jews many having been dispersed centuries before.

There is no scripture supporting your Islamic claim to the land either. So do you have point?

When the European Jews were given Palestine as a homeland there was indeed resistance. The Jews were led by well-armed terrorist groups. They expelled many thousands of Palestinians from their homes, both Christian & Muslim, taking over villages & resources. Of course there was resistance, but after 6 years of WW2 the Arab countries were unable to drive the Jews out. Seems they would have accepted a quick victory, but not a prolonged struggle. Palestinian refugees have not been resettled, & many continue in refugee camps. Sadly the neighbouring countries have not allowed them to settle - the argument is that they have a homeland to which one day they may return.

This is a huge distortion of the truth. This is who the Palestinians collaborated with.

This is their first leader's beliefs.

The Jews were there to begin with. They had always been there. Even the "palestinian" leader Arafat came from Cairo.

Palestinians live with Jews in Israel, they fight in the same armed forces, and they elect their own representatives. You need to leave the reality distortion bubble you're living in.

Do you approve of the expulsion of Palestinians living peaceful in Jerusalem so it can be a Jewish city? The demolishing of homes & schools built on land claimed by settlers? Settlement sewage being directed onto villages & farmland? Palestinian water being taken by settlers, even wells being deliberately polluted? Ancient & new olive groves being destroyed? Homes, hospitals, schools utilities being repeatedly bombed? Farmland being sprayed with herbicides?

There are plenty of Christian videos as well as Jewish & Palestinian supporting what I write.

I give my evidence. Where's yours?

It not simply a matter of history & the Palestinians refusing to accept a peaceful settlement.

You're right. The Arabs will not agree to anything but another holocaust. Is that what you want? The Arabs teach nothing but hate to their children and continue a cycle of bigotry, hate, and intifada wherever Jews are.

In line with the OP I am asking - "Why do the "Christian" world powers accept & support Israel as if it were above the standards of Biblical & common justice? As if the Christ rejecting Jews were to be blessed because they are Jews, & not accountable for their sins?

The premise for your questions are wrong.

From an Israeli organization linked by -

Litigation, courts, judges with people who have no evidence of owning the land.

So, let's try this. You stole my land. I don't have any evidence of it. But you stole my ancestral land. I expect a large check from you in compensation.

What would happen if they did this with any other local government . . . .?

Please read this report about a PBS objection to a PBS report.

The is the complete distortion I am talking about. This happened on the border with Gaza. Gaza was freed. No Israelis live there. What does Gaza do with their time and money? Try to kill more Jews.

And yes, violently attacking soldiers will get you killed.

 

[Covenanter]

My concern has nothing to do with the victims being Muslim. They are oppressed people living without hope. Moreover their sad condition is not recognised by the world's great powers. Read my above quote again. Do you really support such action against civilians? Do you support the arrest & imprisonment of young children - & their maiming & murder by IDF & settlers?

First, I would have to believe your quote was true in the manner presented. As you have given no evidence of "maiming and killing peaceful marchers", I would have to say that it is outright wrong or slanted to the point of being wrong. I didn't bring it up before because I knew your information was false.

Try listening to this BBC report -
Palestinian conflict: Diaries of childhood in Israeli military detention

Last month Israel's Supreme Court refused to hear a petition by a human rights group demanding that Palestinian children detained in Israeli jails be allowed to telephone their parents.

The case cast a spotlight on children tried in military courts for crimes committed in the occupied West Bank. Israel is believed to be the only country that tries children that way. Critics have said the ill-treatment of detainees is widespread.

Or this -
Palestinian toddler burned to death by Israeli settlers in West Bank arson attack

Up to four assailants - believed to be Israeli settlers - smashed the windows of the Dawabsha family home at the entrance to the village before throwing Molotov cocktails and flammable liquids inside, locals told Palestinian news agency Maan.

The attackers scrawled graffiti in Hebrew that said "Revenge" and "Long live the Messiah" on a wall before fleeing to a nearby Israeli settlement.

 

[carpro]

As long as Iran controls Gaza and uses the Palestinians as pawns to exercise their hate of Israel, there will never be peace.

As long as the Palestinians allow themselves to be used, whatever comes their way from Israel for their attacks on Israeli citizens, is their own fault and to be expected.

One thing they should all know is that Israel will ALWAYS respond to Palestinian terror attacks. Iran counts on it.