Why I do what I do the way I do it

[preacher4truth]

Hey Luke runs around calling people heretics, saying they will be judged by the Lord, and that they are spreading darkness and evil. I think his congregation does need some prayer. [snipped]

Really? Where has Luke2427 called anyone an heretic? Can you give a link to that, if not, let's just call this an accusation that is unfounded, and one that necessitates a Christian apology, OK?

You should've already been in prayer for the church the Lord has given him to pastor, and for all saints already.

Luke2427 is zealous for truth. Honestly, I cannot say I have garnered much learning, nor actual theological fodder from any of your posts to my recollection. Do you have anything edifying to add here? Yes? No?

 

[Jerome]

Luke

I was just wondering. Is your congregation growing or shrinking under your command?

Oh, you haven't heard?

The fact of the matter is that my church is one of the fastest growing churches in our county.

 

[Luke2427]

Oh, you haven't heard?

I am trying to ween myself from defending myself but I do think you should have given the context to this remark.

It was a response to a very ugly remark made to me.

I was not bragging but defending.

You ought to point that out, but shucks- you are willing to constantly misrepresent none other than SPURGEON.

I guess then it is way too much to expect you to represent somebody like me rightly.

 

[matt wade]

Really? Where has Luke2427 called anyone an heretic? Can you give a link to that, if not, let's just call this an accusation that is unfounded, and one that necessitates a Christian apology, OK?

'KJVO is, in my opinion, heresy. It is indicative of the corruption that, apparently, well nigh permeates "fundamentalism."' http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=74866

Luke2427 is zealous for truth. Honestly, I cannot say I have garnered much learning, nor actual theological fodder from any of your posts to my recollection. Do you have anything edifying to add here? Yes? No?

No one is forcing you to read my posts. All I read from you is your cheerleading drivel after Luke posts.

 

[preacher4truth]

'KJVO is, in my opinion, heresy. It is indicative of the corruption that, apparently, well nigh permeates "fundamentalism."' http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=74866



No one is forcing you to read my posts. All I read from you is your cheerleading drivel after Luke posts.

I take that as a "no" in answer to my question.

 

[matt wade]

I take that as a "no" in answer to my question.

Funny how you said to me "Can you give a link to that, if not, let's just call this an accusation that is unfounded, and one that necessitates a Christian apology, OK?", and then just ignore that I gave a link where your hero did just what I said he did. Where's the apology for your unfounded accusation?

 

[preacher4truth]

Funny how you said to me "Can you give a link to that, if not, let's just call this an accusation that is unfounded, and one that necessitates a Christian apology, OK?", and then just ignore that I gave a link where your hero did just what I said he did. Where's the apology for your unfounded accusation?

In that link he didn't call any person an heretic anymore than you did. Relax matt, you're getting twisted over a forum. Chill.

 

[Jerome]

I do think you should have given the context to this remark.

It was a response to a very ugly remark made to me.

I was not bragging but defending.

You ought to point that out, but shucks- you are willing to constantly misrepresent. . .

Sigh.

Bragging? Who said you were bragging?



I gave the link to what you said. You gave NOTHING to support your false charge against me.

 

[matt wade]

In that link he didn't call any person an heretic anymore than you did. Relax matt, you're getting twisted over a forum. Chill.

I'm not twisted. I'm a happy camper and having a great time.

You are right..he didn't call any one person a heretic. He called an entire group of people heretics.

 

[matt wade]

Sigh.

Bragging? Who said you were bragging?



I gave the link to what you said. You gave NOTHING to support your false charge against me.

He's just got a guilty conscience is all...

 

[preacher4truth]

I'm not twisted. I'm a happy camper and having a great time.

You are right..he didn't call any one person a heretic. He called an entire group of people heretics.

Not really, he called the teachings heresy. There's a difference. All Christians have some teaching that is probably borderline heresy (false). Thankfully this is not determinitive upon ones salvation.

 

[matt wade]

Not really, he called the teachings heresy. There's a difference. All Christians have some teaching that is probably borderline heresy (false). Thankfully this is not determinitive upon ones salvation.

You Calvinists are so used to twisting words that you do it automatically on just about every subject you speak on. I can't keep track of when I should plainly understand what you are saying or when I should look for the deeper meaning.

If a group of people follow a teaching that is heretical, that would make them heretics in my (and most people's) books. I guess when you are running apologetic for Luke though you need to twist some things around.

 

[Winman]

Funny how you said to me "Can you give a link to that, if not, let's just call this an accusation that is unfounded, and one that necessitates a Christian apology, OK?", and then just ignore that I gave a link where your hero did just what I said he did. Where's the apology for your unfounded accusation?

Many years ago I saw a boxing match from Mexico. One fellow was an accomplished boxer, the other fellow looked like an beginner. It was the funniest fight I've ever seen, the inexperienced fighter was very aggressive, but the good boxer kept knocking him flat. But... they had no knockdown rule, and this fellow would hop up and go after the good boxer again. Within seconds he would get knocked flat again. This went on for about six rounds, they finally stopped the fight so the bad fighter wouldn't get himself killed. It was a hoot.

These debates remind me of that fight, the Cals keep getting knocked flat, but they are not smart enough to stay down.

By the way, I am King James only, does that mean Luke is calling me a heretic?

 

[Luke2427]

Many years ago I saw a boxing match from Mexico. One fellow was an accomplished boxer, the other fellow looked like an beginner. It was the funniest fight I've ever seen, the inexperienced fighter was very aggressive, but the good boxer kept knocking him flat. But... they had no knockdown rule, and this fellow would hop up and go after the good boxer again. Within seconds he would get knocked flat again. This went on for about six rounds, they finally stopped the fight so the bad fighter wouldn't get himself killed. It was a hoot.

These debates remind me of that fight, the Cals keep getting knocked flat, but they are not smart enough to stay down.

By the way, I am King James only, does that mean Luke is calling me a heretic?

I think that is highly possible. Highly.

 

[Robert Snow]

Nothing you've said here is necessary Robert. Not one word.

That could be said about much of what you say, so you need to concentrate on policing your own self and quit taking up for others.

BTW, I do feel for Luke's congregation, but if that is what they think constitutes a good pastor, it's all on them.

 

[webdog]

Let me see if I got this right...if you are KJVO you are a heretic and in "darkness"...but if you believe and teach that God ordains, desires, decrees sin you are teaching orthodox Christianity?

Hyper cal's calling anything heresy should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[Jerome]

"Alas, alas, many make an iron ring of their doctrines and he who dares to step beyond that narrow circle is not reckoned orthodox. God bless heretics, then! God send us more of them! Many make theology into a kind of tread wheel consisting of five doctrines which are everlastingly rotated. For they never go on to anything else." —Charles Spurgeon, "Preach the Gospel"

 

[Luke2427]

"Alas, alas, many make an iron ring of their doctrines and he who dares to step beyond that narrow circle is not reckoned orthodox. God bless heretics, then! God send us more of them! Many make theology into a kind of tread wheel consisting of five doctrines which are everlastingly rotated. For they never go on to anything else." —Charles Spurgeon, "Preach the Gospel"

Amen to this. We are to preach much more in the Word of God than TULIP. And we are to preach it only after we have employed a humble and sound hermeneutic which includes studying the original languages, the immediate context, the literary genre of the piece, studying the piece in it's historical cultural setting, testing your interpretation in light of historical orthodox Christian theology, and the overall theology of the whole Bible.

If one has not done this then he should remain silent.