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Why I Left the Republican Party

FollowTheWay

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You do not have a clue what you are talking about. Republicans work every day and have been very effective in eliminating abortion around the country. You need to look into the recent drop in abortions and why.


Coming on here ans spouting DNC talking points only makes you look foolish.

What is the result of all their work to overturn their own abortion law? Not much. Even when they controlled thje Presidency, both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court they accomplished nothing. Give me some concrete instyances in which Republiocans made a serious effort to make all abortion in America illegal. You can't.
 

Crabtownboy

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See? For him the unborn are not living. Open your eyes administration. This guy (or gal) has got to go.

Strange interpretation Aron. I have never said they are not alive. Are you pro-life, both for the unborn and for those born and living?
 

Revmitchell

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What is the result of all their work to overturn their own abortion law? Not much. Even when they controlled thje Presidency, both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court they accomplished nothing. Give me some concrete instyances in which Republiocans made a serious effort to make all abortion in America illegal. You can't.

If your personal standard is that republicans have not worked to pass a national law that ends all abortion everywhere so this means it is the same as they have done nothing.....


It is the same type of red herring crabby insists on making with regards to the government help of the poor. It is childish and sophomoric.
 

Don

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Strange interpretation Aron. I have never said they are not alive. Are you pro-life, both for the unborn and for those born and living?

Of course he's pro-life. It's the convicted killer, proven guilty through DNA and current forensic science, who's anti-life and a threat to society. And your solution is to set them up for life with better provisions and benefits than those living in poverty who aren't a non-returning drain on resources or a threat to their fellow man.
 

Aaron

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Strange interpretation Aron. I have never said they are not alive. Are you pro-life, both for the unborn and for those born and living?
You are the one placing the unborn in juxtaposition to the living. Not I.

I don't know what kind of discussions go on in the administrators corner, but it can't be right if you aren't forthwith banned.
 

church mouse guy

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Some more Republicans that should join the Democrat Party are Mitch McConnell, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham.
 

church mouse guy

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I left the GOP when they became the democrats under G.W.

Can you imagine what it would be like to live in a place like Prague, which is just another Amsterdam. You would be saying that pro-life would mean that Hitler could never be executed no matter what he did to Prague.
 

poncho

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Can you imagine what it would be like to live in a place like Prague, which is just another Amsterdam. You would be saying that pro-life would mean that Hitler could never be executed no matter what he did to Prague.

40 years ago I couldn't imagine I'd be living in a total surveillance police state where anyone of us can be imprisoned indefinitely without due process but here we are. And your prediction about me is wrong. I'm the only one here that's been openly calling for bringing back public hangings in the town square for child molesters. If it were left up to the Christian conservative Romans 13ers we'd have all been living under dictatorial fascist rule a long time ago.

Ask the average American today about the possibility that our country could become a police state and the common response is, “That could never happen here.” But, ladies and gentlemen, it is already happening here. And, furthermore, it seems that the vast majority of the American people are all in favor it. Republicans love it; Democrats love it; Christians love it; politicians love it; police officers love it; pastors love it; school teachers love it; businessmen love it; everyone loves a police state.

http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin790.htm

And you wonder why I don't have any respect for democrats and republicans? You've all (with very few exceptions) sold yourselves and your fellow Americans out for a false sense of security.

You were fine and dandy when it was Bush shredding the constitution and building the framework for Obama's police state dictatorship but now you want to come out crying big alligator tears yelling foul and whining like a little girl because Obama used the "unitary presidency" you and the republican faithfuls handed to Bush to further consolidate power in the executive branch?

Puhleeze. You only got yourself to blame so quit yer whining already.
 
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Aaron

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No. I know what the word juxtaposition means. I want him to elaborate on the positions he says I juxtaposed.

It's obvious to the most casual observer, but a quick answer to this question will make it painfully obvious.

Do you consider the unborn to be among the living?

Answering in the affirmative will render your arguments nonsensical, as will be seen as substituting the term living for the unborn therein.

Answering in the negative will be a truthful answer for once, but you will have to fess up to your proabortion stance.
 

Crabtownboy

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It's obvious to the most casual observer, but a quick answer to this question will make it painfully obvious.

Do you consider the unborn to be among the living?

Of course they are alive.

Answering in the affirmative will render your arguments nonsensical, as will be seen as substituting the term living for the unborn therein.

Which arguments. I am simply pro life before birth and after birth. Not many folk who are against abortion are pro-life after birth. Supporting capital punishment is simply one example of their being pro-death.

Answering in the negative will be a truthful answer for once, but you will have to fess up to your proabortion stance.

So, you have already decided what my answer should be to make you happy. Sorry, it isn't my answer.
 

Aaron

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Crab(Mao)boy constantly juxtaposes the living and the unborn, ergo the unborn are not among the living.

But when questioned directly, he says he counts the unborn among the living. So, I've taken his argument, and substituted his professed meanings therein in red where the unborn are either mentioned or implied. Now witness the absurdity.

But you will vote for those who do not mind causing misery to those living [as opposed to those who are living], to not caring for the ill, the elderly, the poor. And I bet you are for capital punishment even though we know know, because of DNA testing, there are folk who have been shown to be innocent ... and thus we know there are innocent people still on death row, just not proven innocent yet.

So, you are pro-life for the living, but pro-death for those after birth.

I am opposed to abortion, capital punishment and not taking care of others.

Remember the judgement scene in Matthew. Lots about taking care of those alive ... nothing about those alive.

So, I would say you are partly pro-life, but not really pro-life.

The lack of concern, yea, in fact, the disdain the GOP has for all but the rich and powerful. Their Southern policy, which was racist captured the old Solid South much to the detriment of many poor folk. I did not change in my political philosophy. The GOP moved and became a party I could no longer support.

Sorry if this offends you, but it is, to me, the truth.

Here are his own words for everyone to see, Jesus is not concerned with the care of the unborn:
Remember the judgement scene in Matthew. Lots about taking care of those alive ... nothing about before being born.
The violence he does to the text make the ME'ers look like Charles Spurgeon, and they were banned. You'd think that would be enough, but he cites Jesus to support his antilife propaganda. And still he's allowed wide berth to spew his Marxist subterfuge.

Enough is enough. Marxism is more than politics, it is religion. Saying one is a Christian Socialist is like saying he is a Christian atheist. One thing is certain, he's no Baptist.
 

church mouse guy

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Of course they are alive.



Which arguments. I am simply pro life before birth and after birth. Not many folk who are against abortion are pro-life after birth. Supporting capital punishment is simply one example of their being pro-death.



So, you have already decided what my answer should be to make you happy. Sorry, it isn't my answer.

Europeans, CTB, and you are practically one now, could not bring themselves to execute Hitler even if he raped Prague all over again.

To say that a refusal to execute Nazi war criminals is pro-life just proves how convoluted European/liberal thinking is. It is going to be really tough in Prague/Amsterdam when the GOP legalizes illegal migration and opens the US borders to Africa, Asia, and Latin America. Europe has already opened their borders to Islam. I don't know who is going to send a check to Europe to pay for their welfare and I don't know who is going to fight Europe's wars because I can't imagine that third world types are too concerned about ex-colonials.

It really doesn't matter why you left the GOP, CTB, because the GOP is now an elephant gone mad and is self-destructing. The USA is going to a one-party system and a socialist state. Thirty to forty million Asians, Africans and Hispanics are expected to flood in and destroy American culture and economy. Even the Democrat Party will now just be another communist-style party--even more than it is now.
 
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Crabtownboy

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Remember the judgement scene in Matthew. Lots about taking care of those alive ... nothing about before being born.



Don't be upset with me. Be upset with Matthew ... or God. I didn't write Matthew. But if you can show me where the judgement scene speaks about the unborn then do so.

My point was that from this description of the final judgment and from Jesus teachings it is obvious that God and Jesus considered how we treat others as very important.

Notice in the passage the judge does not take into consideration what those being judged believed or what they thought, he judged them on how they treated others.

Remember those on his left, the goats, were the ones who would not help those who were ill, in prison, etc.

Other verses speaking to this:

Job 31:32
but no stranger had to spend the night in the street, for my door was always open to the traveler--

Isaiah 58:7
Is it not to share your food with the hungry and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter-- when you see the naked, to clothe them, and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?

Ezekiel 18:7
He does not oppress anyone, but returns what he took in pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked.

Ezekiel 18:16
He does not oppress anyone or require a pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked.

Romans 12:13
Share with the Lord's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

Hebrews 13:2
Do not forget to show hospitality to strangers, for by so doing some people have shown hospitality to angels without knowing it.

 

FollowTheWay

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If your personal standard is that republicans have not worked to pass a national law that ends all abortion everywhere so this means it is the same as they have done nothing.....


It is the same type of red herring crabby insists on making with regards to the government help of the poor. It is childish and sophomoric.

As I said, the Republican party does not want to end abortion. It would cost them votes. Simple enough for you to understand?
 
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