Why is Calvinism surging?

[Jarthur001]

:BangHead: Again, Agian, and Again, you NOT listening your just regurgitating!!

My statement NOT ONCE said God chose them BECAUSE they would beleive, but that God chose salvation to be THROUGH FAITH and knew all those of faith.

who posted this just over a year ago?

God knowing they WILL believe the truth and what He knows they will do He predestines or decrees that their choice to BE for accepting or rejecting.

emphasis added my me.

You are right....I get very tried of it. I should have stayed out long ago. I have to much time on my hand over New Years Day

 

[Amy.G]

Then it's an unusual surge because none of the following phrases are found in the Bible:

Total Depravity
Unconditional Election
Limited Atonement
Irresistable Grace
Perseverance of the Saints

along with "The Sovereignty of God".

Not that any of these concepts are or are not necessarily true.

But what did we do for 15 centuries before Calvin showed up?

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;
22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, (or Calvin), or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are yours;
23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.

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HankD

Other things not in the Bible:

Trinity
Rapture
Communion
Altar calls
The term OSAS

I guess those things are not true.

 

[Allan]

who posted this just over a year ago?



emphasis added my me.

You are right....I get very tried of it. I should have stayed out long ago. I have to much time on my hand over New Years Day

As I said in post #155. It IN NO WAY DIFFERS and explained it ALREADY here.
http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1157350&postcount=155

Take some Advil brother, the headache will go away in a day or so :laugh:

 

[Timtoolman]

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Great exchange Allen and Jarthur. Two perspectives on the same scripture. Who is right? The debate continues. I appreciate the spirit delivered by both of you. I haven't voted but believe one reason is the return to biblical truth. Although I still have a problem with calvinism I attend a full blown calvinist church. Most know it is and agree. First time I have found one like that. The pastor teaches Christ. Anyone who is drawn is drawn because of Christ being lifted up, not fire insurance but because they have a desire to choose Christ instead of this world. If you grow tired of King Jesus being lifted up then you will not be happy there. I have been going for over 6 months and I leave overflowing with joy and peace everytime. The unity there is incrediable! The worship is awe inspiring and completely Christ centered. This church does not spend 20 or 30 minutes of announcements or jokes, stories of what the pastor or ass. pastor did last week. From the moment you come in till the pastor bows his head for prayer at the end is all pointed to Christ. No distractions hardly at all. Just Christ.
I cannot accept that calvinist find it so peaceful or awesome that they are chosen and others are not. I am not trying to make myself a saint but I love people and want them all to know Christ(I believe this is Christ's work in me). The fact is if God only reveals Himself to some and blinds the rest then He did not die for the world. And He has condemn them to hell with no mercy or love. I pray daily that if I am being prideful or disrespectful to God in this manner that He would show me.

I know both of you can't be right but both could be wrong!

 

[webdog]

Good to see you again, Tim. Hope all is well.

 

[Allan]

I know both of you can't be right but both could be wrong!

"we both could be wrong"...Ain't that the Truth!
Or
We could both be partially right.

Good to see you back Tim.

May God lead into all truth for His glory.

 

[JustChristian]

Other things not in the Bible:

Trinity
Rapture
Communion
Altar calls
The term OSAS

I guess those things are not true.

I assume you mean the exact words are not in the Bible. If there is no Biblical support for a belief it is not true.