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why is "Right Wing" chrsitianity bad?
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Zaac
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Odd. How on earth did Zionism get into this?
Yep, no doubt
How did socialism get into this? This is a 'right wing' thread.
The biggest problem with that theory is that the Jews were not the only ones targeted in the Holocaust. Homosexuals, Romani people, religious and political dissidents, Eastern Europeans (mostly of Slavic descent), etc.
Was the evil one involved? I think he obviously was. But that doesn't say a thing about whether or not Jews have a special place in God's providence. If you're basing it off of who was persecuted and marked for extinction by Hitler, then you could just as easily make the case that homosexuals have a special place in God's providence.
Yes it does.
Well, yea, I guess I have to agree with you when Hitler is understood to epitomize one of the ten Germanic kings:
And the ten horns which thou sawest, and the beast, these shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and shall burn her utterly with fire. Rev 17:16
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thisnumbersdisconnected
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One ...
Nothing to indicate they are "Germanic" or any other nationality, particularly is also worldwide.
Two ...
Since this prophecy is as yet unfulfilled, speculation attempting to attach identity of the kings to past historical figures is a waste of time and effort.
Well, yea, there is indeed indication, because it's exactly as it transpired. It was basically ten Germanic tribes that replaced the Caesars as rulers of Rome, the Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Vandals, Franks, Burgundians, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Alamanni, and the Lombards.
...Seal not up the words of the prophecy of this book; for the time is at hand. Rev 22:10
Your view is defective d-CON. You're not even following the instructions.
"In the New Testament prophecies are not made to point to facts, but facts to point back to prophecies." Alfred Edersheim
evenifigoalone
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Oh, another "my political philosophy is better than your's" threads. I'm not going to bother. These discussions never get anywhere.
jesus was jewish, and he will come back to rule over them, and we will ALL be blessed at that time, so why the hatred towards them?
God still has plans for them and National isreal!
Kentucky's favorite whipping child is modern day Israel. And, if you disagree using another point of view from the Bible he uses words like "stupid" to demean your theology. And, don't dare point out the fact that his stance appears to be antisemitic. Then you will really incur his wrath.
When christians JUST preach the Gospel, but refuse to do their civil duties such as voting, getting involved withmoral issues, and just passively allowing the cultural to keep getting worse, to neglect spreading and shining light of bible and jesus into ALL aspects off the culture...
We are citizens of heaven, but also left here to preserve the culture by BOTH preaching/deeds/actions!
Antichrist and one world religion of the antichrist spirit, still yet to come!
I don't hate them, in the least. I have much respect for them in many ways, especially their intellect. To be such a small group they've exerted (and still do) a tremendous amount of influence over world affairs, finance, arts, sciences, entertainment etc. I just don't worship them as some do. There's nothing special about their DNA, the bible makes that clear. There's nothing 'Christian' about giving blind support to the Zionists in their goal for a greater Israel while turning a blind eye to the plight of their victims. If you haven't done so, educate yourself some on 'Christian Zionism', it's ANYTHING but the peaceable religion of Jesus Christ.
And yes, to imply, insinuate that my country owes unconditional support to them or God is going to curse us is sheer stupidity.
And yes, to imply, insinuate that my country owes unconditional support to them or God is going to curse us is sheer stupidity.
Rather off topic. Why don't you start a thread on that topic.
Right wing churches are just that, tools of the right wing. Jesus should be more important than right wing neo-con politics.
evenifigoalone
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Hmkay, said I'd stay out of the thread, but I will say what my view is.
From the discussion in this thread, what the OP is calling "right wing Christianity" sounds about like neo-conservatism. I was raised in a neo-conservative family. I'm not neo-conservative anymore (my views and perspective on many things have undergone an overhaul these past few years), although they still share some common ground with my political philosophy.
I left neo-conservatism because I don't see the point in mixing theology with ideas about how much government control there should be, especially when the nation was built on the principle of religious freedom. I'm no liberal (neither politically or theologically), but IDK...I'm not for being all, let's have small government, but then have the government to control what you do in your life that doesn't affect anyone else but you. *shrug*
But that's just my opinion...I'm not going to argue about it pointlessly. Those who see neo-conservatism as part of their Christianity won't take kindly to someone demanding they see otherwise...it's so mixed in with Christianity in some cases it's almost like denying neo-conservatism would be like denying your faith. (That may not be the case with those here, but that used to be the case with me and seems to be the case with my family.)
And I'm not here to create dissonance with fellow believers. If nothing else we share our faith in common, right?:love2:
IDK, I'm just some young adult trying to figure life out.:tonofbricks:
From the discussion in this thread, what the OP is calling "right wing Christianity" sounds about like neo-conservatism. I was raised in a neo-conservative family. I'm not neo-conservative anymore (my views and perspective on many things have undergone an overhaul these past few years), although they still share some common ground with my political philosophy.
I left neo-conservatism because I don't see the point in mixing theology with ideas about how much government control there should be, especially when the nation was built on the principle of religious freedom. I'm no liberal (neither politically or theologically), but IDK...I'm not for being all, let's have small government, but then have the government to control what you do in your life that doesn't affect anyone else but you. *shrug*
But that's just my opinion...I'm not going to argue about it pointlessly. Those who see neo-conservatism as part of their Christianity won't take kindly to someone demanding they see otherwise...it's so mixed in with Christianity in some cases it's almost like denying neo-conservatism would be like denying your faith. (That may not be the case with those here, but that used to be the case with me and seems to be the case with my family.)
And I'm not here to create dissonance with fellow believers. If nothing else we share our faith in common, right?:love2:
IDK, I'm just some young adult trying to figure life out.:tonofbricks:
No one is advocating disconnecting from the culture. The problem comes is when you take the political stances of the kingdoms of this world and try to wed that to the Kingdom of God.
Where in the scripture does it tell us to preserve the culture (kingdoms of the world)? We are not called to preserve culture, but to transform it through the power of God - not through force (political power).
He didn't suggest doing any such thing,
That's a logical non sequitur.
Just because Hitler persecuted a group does not mean that they have a special place in the plan of God.
Please note that I'm not taking a position either way regarding the Jewish people. I'm merely pointing out the historical ignorance and logic absurdity demonstrated when Christians say that we can know what God has a special role for modern Jewish people based on the fact that they were one of the people groups that Hitler targeted. You can just as easily make the argument for homosexuals, Slavs, Roma, etc., is that is the basis for your position.
If you believe that modern Jewish people have a special role in God's providence, then you undermine your own position by using that argument.