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So who flew planes into the towers, Timothy McVeigh or muslims[sic]?
A small number of Muslims did. What's your point?
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So who flew planes into the towers, Timothy McVeigh or muslims[sic]?
A small number of Muslims did. What's your point?
The point is that the current threat of terror around the world - not just against the U.S. is from a subset of the Muslim world.
The threat is real.
Denying it will not make it go away.
You can not fight a problem until you understand the problem.
Your insipid response tells me that you do not understand the problem.
A small number of Muslims did. What's your point?
Then what exactly do you want to do?
He was NEVER in, the military! Riding in "Marine One" does not make him a Marine anymore than going into McDonald's makes him a Big Mac... "Semper Fi!"
Obama has no idea of what it means to serve America as a warrior; He has no idea of what it means to have honor, and be loyal to the one who has your back in a fire-fight;
He does not understand how the enemy thinks, because he has never been under fire with the possibility of injury, or, death staring him in the eye;
He does not understand how the patriots and common citizen's of this this nation chose to fight and die to be free from the tyranny of England; to salute the flag on the sandy beaches of Normandy and Iwo Jima; and to watch the pride in Iraqi's when they cast their first vote for freedom;
In short. Obama doesn't get it, because he was never there... and all of his book knowledge will never get him the experience of having been there. He may be book wise, but, he severely lacks the personal experience it takes to be a good Commander-in-Chief.
==Neither was John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, etc. Being in the military is not a requirement to be president.
Yeah! But, they loved America, and Hated England, the King, and taxes. And they helped in the Revolution. Obama is still a "Wimp" and nothing will change that...
==Again, many of our founders were never in a military (etc). Simply because a person has not been in the military does not mean that they have no idea what it means to have honor. Since when did being in the military become a requirement for honor?
You're right in one way... Obama would be without any form of "honor" had he been in the military. He is a snake crawling through the grass of the WH lawn.
==Most Americans do not understand how our current enemy thinks and I will include the majority of conservative Christians in that "most". Our current "war on terror" is, first and foremost, a spiritual war (Eph 6:12). Who do you think inspires the terrorists who kill innocent people? None other than the devil and his minions. I have said before, and I now say it again, that I believe Bin Laden is demon possessed. Military, police, and political action is secondary to the very real spiritual war being waged here. Until Americans understand that, this "war on terror" is just going to keep going in circles.
Wow, we both agree on this!!! I believe as you, and the Apostle Paul. We are fighting a supernatural enemy, and it sure looks as though the radical Muslims are demon possessed and demoniacally lead.
==You had me on board until that last sentence. I believe the war in Iraq was misguided. Why? Because it is not our job to nation build in hostile countries.
If I had you up to this point, why are you tearing down the post prior to this point? :laugh:
==IMO, there are many reasons why Obama is not a "good Commander-in-Chief". Not one of them has to do with his lack of military experience. My reasons have to do with his liberal policies.
I reject the notion that a person must have been in the military (etc) to know the true price of freedom. Every American who knows the history of this country, every Christian who knows the history of salvation, should know the price of freedom. If they don't know the price then it is not because they were not in the military. Rather it is because they are ignorant of history. Granted that is a far too common sickness in our country today.
You need to reread my entire post. I am not saying that he is a bad CIC due to lack of military experience. I am saying that he is a bad CIC because he fails to give the military and the long, bloody, dedicated military history of this nation the credit that it is due.
He went to Europe and apologized for every American, and the military was included in his apologies. He had NO RIGHT, and NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE for anything that this nation has done, or ever will do.
he can't concieve of the fact his muslim buddies are the bad guy.
==Ok. I agree with you on that. Such failure is one of the major downfalls of liberalism. Our military is, in my mind, the best in the world. Whether it is on the battlefield or on the mercy field, our military is top notch.
==Apologies are never a bad thing. However he looked really weak going around apologizing. The POTUS should not engage in that kind of "hat in the hand" type of behavior. I think he was motivated by the same irrational guilt that tends to motivate most liberals. They are ashamed of America's success.
Obama sees the terrorists as a victim and we are the bully's. He sympathizes with them.