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Why Prey On The Innocent

Revmitchell

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Self sufficiency is great as far as it goes. Not all are able to be self sufficient. Even those of you with perfectly great health insurance can be denied coverage at any time, even in the midst of cancer treatment. They system is seriously broken and it will only get worse. Time to take the obscene profits out of the equation and start using the money to provide healthcare to all.

And another thing...do you guys realize that American jobs are outsourced not only to countries with cheap labor. They also are offshored to other countries where the government provides health insurance to all residents. This is a cost of insurance the employers have to bear here, that they don't if they send jobs to other countries. But of course, neocon myopia can't see that point either.

Employers do not have to provide insurance at all. But insurance has little to do with it. Outsourcing is a result of a number of things. Those "obscene profits" go into the economy to stock holders. Reduce those and you have problems in the economy.
 

Revmitchell

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I'll make a bet with you.

Show me where I have propagated that mindset. Even in the very post above, I mentioned taking care of others. How do you people keep missing stuff that's right in front of you?

The wager: Show me how I've done what you've charged, and I'll leave the BB.

If you can't, then why don't you try using qualifiers, and quit overgeneralizing?

Conservatives out give liberals in personal giving to the needy by a significant margin. The wealth protection can only be on the side of stingy liberals who only want to use other peoples money rather than their own.
 

Magnetic Poles

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Employers do not have to provide insurance at all.
I don't know about Florida, but here a company has to offer it if they have more than a handful of employees. I can't remember the threshold offhand, but 20 employees is it I think.

But insurance has little to do with it. Outsourcing is a result of a number of things. Those "obscene profits" go into the economy to stock holders. Reduce those and you have problems in the economy.
Check again. When you have the CEO of United Healthcare receiving a BILLION dollar bonus, that is obscene. How many cancer patients could that help? His company has bean counters...not doctors...finding ways to deny coverage.
 

targus

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I don't know about Florida, but here a company has to offer it if they have more than a handful of employees. I can't remember the threshold offhand, but 20 employees is it I think.
In that case then there should not be a lot of uninsured in your state.

Check again. When you have the CEO of United Healthcare receiving a BILLION dollar bonus, that is obscene. How many cancer patients could that help? His company has bean counters...not doctors...finding ways to deny coverage.

Instead we will have government bureaucrat bean counters finding ways to deny treatments.

Not sure that anyone can say that is an improvement.
 

poncho

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I'm sorry you have such a low opinion of our democracy. What form of government would you rather have? Oh, I guess it's a theocracy like Iran.

This nation was born kicking and screaming as a republic, not a democracy
"where 51% of the people can take away the rights of the other 49" Thomas Jefferson.
 

matt wade

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Check again. When you have the CEO of United Healthcare receiving a BILLION dollar bonus, that is obscene. How many cancer patients could that help? His company has bean counters...not doctors...finding ways to deny coverage.

Check again yourself. That's an outright lie. He did not receive a billion dollar bonus. He has had stock options for over 15 years and those stock options are now worth roughly one billion, which happens to be down from what they were worth at one point in time. The stock options started out at much lower prices and have gone up over those 15 years to the tune of over 40 times their initial worth. You know what, that's the point of giving these guys stock options...so they try and make the company worth more.

Now that your lie has been debunked...on with your regularly scheduled programming.
 

LeBuick

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What an insult.

Yes, it is an insult to prey on our seniors just to advance the conservative cause.

Many 'seniors' are not in nursing homes or with alzhiemers.

Many have their good minds, are active, are educated..... and are keeping more current regarding these things than many people busy with jobs and children. Many are professionals and educators..... either currently practicing or retired.

Shame on you for twisting my words, you never once heard me mention a nursing home. You also know the ones you mentioned like professionals and educators are not the ones believing the fear mongering so why drag them in to the discussion? Is there future plans to scare them also?

What an insult to say these people who are voicing their alarm are unnecessary scarring others with the truth.

No, what is being said is an insult and far from the truth. THERE ARE NO DEATH BOARDS and anyone saying there are is telling a bald face lie. How can one hide behind the blood stained banner claiming to do good by protecting the innocent and can intentionally lie to scare seniors just to advance a cause.

You should repent, study more, and stop treating all the promises and designs of men as though humans are righteous and kind and never fail and always benevolent in motives..... and are gods. This lack of inspection and beating the party talking points is deceitful and evil...... and you parrot it.

You should repent for defending this behavior, you pretend to be pro-life so you condone scaring seniors with the fear of death. This fear mongering is irresponsible and evil and really needs to stop. I don't know how any Christian can support or defend preying on others like this.
 

Robert Snow

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I'll make a bet with you.

Show me where I have propagated that mindset. Even in the very post above, I mentioned taking care of others. How do you people keep missing stuff that's right in front of you?

The wager: Show me how I've done what you've charged, and I'll leave the BB.

If you can't, then why don't you try using qualifiers, and quit overgeneralizing?

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Show me where I said you "have propagated that mindset?" I wasn't even talking to or about you at all, but if the shoe fits, wear it!
 

ray Marshall

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What do you base these extreme charges on? Politics?

Just throw politics out the window. What I stated has no bearing on any particular party.
Our history has been changed by design
and we are taught false concept. For instance, who know anything about the French Revolution and how it is used today because most of the revolution has been watered down. We are given doses of the same old thing over and over again. If we do not learn from our history we are doomed to repeat it. Some things have been hidden from us because it is a very successful tool and we don't know the difference by experiencing what work for others in the past.
 

billwald

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>This nation was born kicking and screaming as a republic, not a democracy

I GOT SUCKERED by this phrase for 30 years. All "republic" means is that no one has an inherited right to rule . . . no royalty. That is why the People's REPUBLIC Of China is also a republic as was the USSR under Stalin.
 

Robert Snow

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>This nation was born kicking and screaming as a republic, not a democracy

I GOT SUCKERED by this phrase for 30 years. All "republic" means is that no one has an inherited right to rule . . . no royalty. That is why the People's REPUBLIC Of China is also a republic as was the USSR under Stalin.

You're going to have to stop this Bill, you are making too much sense!
 

OldRegular

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>This nation was born kicking and screaming as a republic, not a democracy

I GOT SUCKERED by this phrase for 30 years. All "republic" means is that no one has an inherited right to rule . . . no royalty. That is why the People's REPUBLIC Of China is also a republic as was the USSR under Stalin.

You need to trash your dictionary, that is if you used one!
 

OldRegular

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This is the crux of the problem. We now have a group of so-called Christians who are more interested in protecting their wealth than is doing what Christ commanded. They are more akin to militia groups than to Christian churches. I know, I used to attend one of these groups.

Your Christ-like behavior in supporting those who slaughter the unborn or just born has been uplifting to all on this Forum.
 
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